Twitter warns it could sue Meta over “copycat” Threads app

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Twitter warns it could sue Meta over “copycat” Threads app - Lemmy.world

Twitter is threatening to sue Meta over concerns about its new Threads app, according to a letter obtained by Semafor. In the letter, which is addressed to Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg, Twitter lawyer Alex Spiro argues that Meta used Twitter’s trade secrets and intellectual property to build Threads. Spiro, who is also Elon Musk’s personal lawyer and a partner at the Quinn Emanuel law firm, claims that Meta hired “dozens” of ex-Twitter employees to develop Threads, which wouldn’t be all that surprising given just how many people were fired following Musk’s takeover. But according to Twitter, many of these former workers still have access to Twitter’s trade secrets and other confidential information. Twitter alleges that Meta took advantage of this and tasked these employees with developing a “copycat” app “in violation of both state and federal law.” As a result, Twitter is threatening legal action in the form of “both civil remedies and injunctive relief.” It also “demands that Meta take immediate steps to stop using any Twitter trade secrets or other highly confidential information” and says Meta isn’t allowed to crawl or scrape Twitter’s data, either. Meta responded to Twitter’s letter in a post on Threads, with communications director Andy Stone stating, “No one on the Threads engineering team is a former Twitter employee — that’s just not a thing.” Meta doesn’t seem all too concerned about this, and that may be because Twitter isn’t all that shy about threatening legal action. In May, Twitter accused Microsoft of abusing the company’s API through integrations with some of its products. Meta launched Threads on Wednesday night, with celebrities and brands the first to get on board. Less than 24 hours since the app’s launch, Threads has garnered over 30 million registered users, while internal data obtained by The Verge’s Alex Heath indicates that users have already made over 95 million threads. “Competition is fine, cheating is not,” Musk said in a reply to a post about the letter on Twitter.

Well Elon… You could’ve avoided this if you just didn’t laid them off as soon as you bought Twitter

Where is Elon’s PR department? Man won’t stop tarnishing his own reputation.

I’m fairly sure it doesn’t take trade secrets to build a Twitter clone.

Just get your 🍿 ready

This guy would be three steps ahead of the PR. Dude publicly mocked a guy in a wheelchair who also happened to have a 100 million dollar clause if he was fired, which he was, publicly, on Twitter while having his HIPAA information by his CEO because he thought he was malingering.

What PR diem could get ahead of that ONE day, let alone so many others of that level of holy shit? Not one that wants to stay profitable since he's supposedly stiffing other companies they do business with.

Well Twitter, Spotify, and Netflix are all like standard system design/architecture case studies and interview questions. Pretty sure Twitter has been invented like 300,000 times in various iterations. It’s not exactly like CocaCola’s recipe.
I think he literally fired the PR department at Twitter, and all emails from press are auto-replied to with a poop emoji. The man is such an unfunny child.
It has been about a decade since his reputation stopped being “tech visionary who will save the world” and started being “edgy pre-teen with daddy’s credit card”.
Elon can fucking suck it. Loser.
Do it. Let the rich eat themselves.
While I’m no fan of Facebook/zuck, I would love to see this bullshit play out.
Wow, we get to watch the most epic battle of the bad unfold...

OoOoOoOoOoO this is like when two rival villains break into a bank and notice each other copied the other's idea, so they fight each other instead of robbing the bank.

Do it guys!!! Save us all from yourselves!!

If former employees still have access to trade secrets, isn’t that Twitters fault for not thoroughly revoking access for its former employees? That’s one of the first things you should do when someone leaves your company.
Didn't he fire those people, claim they sucked, claim that Twitter's code sucked, and promise that his new, more hardcore guys would rewrite it all to work better?

This reminds me of something...

What are we going to build?
A PAYWALL!
Who's going to pay for it?
META!

The best people. Just terrific hackers or coders or whatever they're called. Biggly.

Damaged narcissistic minds, misfiring alike on all goddamned cylinders.

The shepherds battled for the sheep.
Is there anyway I could pin this comment? 😂
I would like it pinned to his eyes.
It’s so funny.
Elon can pick a lane about as well as a Tesla.
Such a dick too, like first you get fired because he doesn’t understand the business he bought and is cheap, then he acts like the employees were fired for being inadequate.
I hope someone sent him this with a “this you?”
Cage fight, Cage Fight, CAGE FIGHT!!!
@faltuuser Definitely time to grab the popcorn for this one. Hopefully Zuck and Elon damage their respective business to no end. If the jurisdiction of any litigation is California, Elon is going to have an uphill battle.
@faltuuser Definitely time to grab the popcorn for this one. Hopefully Zuck and Elon damage their respective business to no end. If the jurisdiction of any litigation is California, Elon is going to have an uphill battle.
And what would be those “trade secrets”? The ability to make posts and have them being read by other people? I’m pretty sure every forum software since the '70s has prior art. Elons fragile narcissism know no bounds.

And what would be those “trade secrets”?

Hey Musk, your wasted $44 billion didn’t buy you the Fedverse and its protocol, dipshit.

Do I have to opt out of threads? I have no intention of ever using it but I don’t want it to automatically be created just bc I have a Facebook.
Facebook will no doubt be creating shadow profiles of every fediverse account it comes across and there’s nothing you can do about it.
Well damn. Didn’t think of that.
Trade secrets? Is Threads already delinquent on some vendor payments too?
"Can sue" and "can win" are very different things.
Does anyone else feel like the core concept of Twitter is not really that interesting in the first place
To you it is not.
It’s not just you. Twitter doesn’t now and never did anything Facebook doesn’t already do. It’s just a pared down Facebook experience.
Yes, I prefer community discussions focused on certain topics, rather than following individuals.
Twitter was an open canvas at first, that’s what made it appealing. The users shaped it and norms formed. Then the bad men came.
I’ve gotten some decent use from Twitter over the years, and it was nice they doubled the character count, but I very much prefer places where I can read and post over one paragraph at a time. The concept of 140 characters sort of made sense when it was based on MMS, but it’s not clear if anyone ever even used that after the first couple of years. People would make longer posts by replying to themselves and chaining a dozen posts, but that is an excruciating interface for something that could just be one long post. Plus then people could “like” and reply to each segment individually which is sort of chaotic.
Reddit was the only social-media like site that was geared towards and appropriate for having longer discussions, but it seems like the owners want to dumb it down into TikTok/9Gag. I’m glad Lemmy is here for people who want to use a bunch of words at once and express complete thoughts.
Me think why waste time say lot word when few word do trick. -Wayne Gretzky -Michael Scott -Kevin Malone
It depends on what you’re looking for. For me, Twitter is basically an RSS feed of news and people I want to hear from. It’s not a social media network for me. That’s why all I want is a reverse chronological feed.
Imagine convincing a judge/jury that Facebook doesn’t know how to make a social media site with pictures, videos, and short posts lmao

Yeah lol. Also, like it’s some big trade secret how Twitter functions.

Musk is such a douche. Anyone with half a brain and a handful of resources was salivating at the thought of luring users to an alternative.

Jesus man.

Knowing Elmo, it will come out that twitter stole facebook code or something.
I don’t see how anyone could create a website that lets users post things without stealing the code. That’s never been done before. /s

And how exactly are they going to alleged that these developers leveraged their trade secrets and knowledge to create threads? Like what's the go here, these devs have an eidetic memory and know exactly what they need to implement a clone?

I know when I've moved between employers, I take my experience which I re-leverage in new projects. Unless I've physically taken code or have access to it, it sounds like this lawyer is talking out his ass?

The Kindergarten goes on…
For the first time in my life, I’m backing Zuckerberg.
Remember when we were cheering a mercenary group? Remember when we were cheering a gazillion dollar media corporation? This is a weird, weird, WEIRD year.
It functions on completely different technology, go back to your masturbatiom cave Elon
You mean that Musk doesn’t own Fedverse like he’s implying??
Not very good trade secrets if Zuck knew them!
Didn’t know that Fedverse technology was one of Twitter’s trade secrets. LOL.
Next he’s going to sue whoever he can because email already exists! And we type! With words! LAWSUIT
This is hilarious and I am here for it. They can’t pay their bills, can’t imagine they have funds to get a legal case together.

Both Musk and Zuckerberg are horrible people, but while Zuck looks like the dangerous person, that has no regards for anything besides his own money and it’s actually competent in doing his shady stuff, Musk seems like the petty dude that keeps talking shit and it’s extremely incompetent, turning everything he touches into shit, but not because of some big plan, but because he it’s way over his head.

Not saying he is not smart, but managing doesn’t seem like his deal.