gthutbwdyJul 5, 2023

Signal is just a company selling privacy

https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/561486

Signal is just a company selling privacy - SDF Chatter

Signal is a centralized app, run by a company. If they are offered enough money or legal threat they will sell out or close. I am sure people will make an argument that its FOSS and people will just fork it if it goes bad, but a new fork will have 0 users and Signal will still have all of your old contacts. Why not make a switch now? Before it is even more popular and you have more reasons to stay? Why fork it if there are already decentralized apps that use same encryption, like XMPP apps? Sure you can find flaws in every app, including XMPP implementations, but if we will have to write code for a new Signal fork, why not just fix whatever is that bugs you in XMPP clients? If you want to use Matrix, that is fine as well, we can always bridge the two open protocols. But you cant bridge Signal if their company doesn’t allow it.

Show threadDevils69Advocate
Signal doesn’t store your contacts or messages; it’s end to end encryption. What are you suggesting they’ll “sell out” if offered enough money?
Jul 5, 2023 at 11:49pmWeb
Show threadgthutbwdyJul 5, 2023
I was referring for them taking the bribe and letting the app die. At which point switching to another app will be unavoidable. It is better to make a switch now, then wait longer until possibly even more users use it.
Show threadjazir5Jul 6, 2023
Signal launched in 2014 and is open source. It is literally impossible for them to "sell out". If the main developers want to stop developing it, it will simply be forked. Do you even understand what open source software is? They aren't even selling anything, signal is free, and the developers do not make money off of users. You are fearmongering paranoia, and honestly, people like you sicken me. Stop posting about things you understand nothing about.
Show threadfiat_luxJul 6, 2023

Your title uses far too active a verb to be referring to a hypothetical situation.

I get that you want to promote XMPP but accusing others of corruption is not how to do it, unless you have solid proof of it. Do you have any sources suggesting Signal has sold data?

Show threadHidingCatJul 6, 2023
That's a terrible line of thinking. Why not just use it till the end, if it ever comes?
Show threadDevils69AdvocateJul 6, 2023
I suppose. You’re still putting trust into something. To make sure they’re doing the right thing and making the right decisions in regards to security and privacy, and that they wouldn’t be pressured by a government or third-party to violate that.
Show threadgthutbwdyJul 8, 2023
We don’t need trust in P2P networks. Companies are always trying to spread the idea that you always have to trust someone, so it might as well be them. Politicians do that too. P2P networks exist, so does direct democracies. Don’t let them make you a pessimist.
Show threadDevils69AdvocateJul 8, 2023
What are you talking about? I mean trust in the sense of doing the right thing from a security aspect. Maybe whoever is setting up the server isn’t as adept with security and doesn’t do all that is required.
Show threadgthutbwdyJul 8, 2023
They don’t need to be. I am talking about the security being in your hands, it is end to end encrypted and you can hide your IP behind tor, since unlike Signal, XMPP clients support use of Tor.
Show threadgthutbwdyJul 8, 2023
I dont know why I cant reply to any of you in this thread