Someone has initiated a social.coop vote about defederating from #Threads. I’m voting not to.

I considered making my vote a blocking vote since there’s a good chance I will leave social.coop if it passes, but I’m not sure I can make a compelling case it’s against our core principles, per se. Just not what I want from my server. I will be pretty bummed if it comes to that.

https://www.loomio.com/p/Kwl1mPCi/shall-we-defederate-from-meta-s-threads-net-

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Here’s what I wrote:

If threads.net becomes a way that my friends use the Fediverse, which I think is likely, I would probably leave social.coop if I couldn’t interact with them. I would be pretty sad about that—I’ve been here since 2017!

Separately, while I share the skepticism of Meta, I find something distasteful about excluding Meta’s users, who are numerous and imo more diverse than the Fediverse currently.

I am less afraid of EEE than others. I think we’re quite resilient against it.

Now that social.coop looks like it's on track preemptively defederate, I'm going to say one more thing about this and then I'm going to *try* to stop fighting with people over it. Next post:

It feels like under the principle of anti-corporatism we're reenacting the same tech nerd gatekeeping that pervades Hacker News, open source communities, certain subreddits, etc.

Non-fedi people I talk to see Mastodon as "just for nerds" and it feels like our community is doing everything in its power to keep it that way. This is our best opportunity I've seen to make the Fediverse something for *everyone.*

I think the people who oppose federating with Meta are well-intentioned. They either don't see how this is exclusionary or don't consider that kind of inclusion as important as keeping Meta from touching everything. I get that. We've made different calculations about what's important here. It just kinda bums me out.

Interestingly this particular style of RCV has created some perverse incentives in a way I've never seen so visibly. The top three options are very close and there's only 58 votes so far.

My top choice is "Federate w Threads, don't create conditions" but it's clearly losing globally. My second choice "Federate w Thread, create conditions for defederation" was in third place globally, but by making it my top choice I bumped it up a percentage point to second.