CriticalMissFairphone 4—the repairable, sustainable smartphone—is coming to the US
The D QuuuuuillIf the fairphone had been available I wouldn’t have gotten my teracube. I like my teracube and don’t intend to ditch it, but it is my impression that the fairphone is definitively better
SaturdaycatWow I really wanted this, but I got a pixel 6a
Hmm
UnsayableorcWas looking at this a while back, but went with an Asus Zenfone 9 since the Fairphone was still unavailable.
ooooooh right in the middle of my moving to open source software arc too, could be fun
sabAlso interesting that it ships with /e/OS!
/e/OS is a de-googled version Android. Most Google services are replaced with Nextcloud integration, but somehow all apps are still available through a software store that bridges to the Play Store while letting you browse for free apps anonymously. Google Play Services are replaced with the wonderful microG.
I used it for a while on my Fairphone 3 for around half a year, and for the most part it was a very pleasant experience. And whoever doesn't like it can of course (re)install stock Android. :)
How does e/OS/ compare with Lineage?
The last time I used Lineage it was known as CyanogenMod, so I'm not really in a position to perfectly compare the two. But I'll give it a shot.
Lineage includes many more Google components. As an end user this means that you'll for example be able to use the Google location service, using WiFi and bluetooth to identify where your phone is even when you don't have GPS reception. /e/OS depends on a mostly discontinued Mozilla location service, which would have been amazing had it only worked better. So location data for example inside buildings can be a bit spotty.
/e/OS also has a bunch of extra features to protect your privacy if you should wish, such as messing with your location data so that the apps on your phone will have no idea where in the world you're located.
/e/ also comes with a bunch of FOSS alternatives to the default Google apps by default, while i think Lineage might leave it to the users to fill the phone with apps. You can of course uninstall apps from /e/ and install the Google ones should you wish.
AtemuLineage includes many more Google components. As an end user this means that you’ll for example be able to use the Google location service, using WiFi and bluetooth to identify where your phone is even when you don’t have GPS reception.
This is false.
The only thing Google LOS has besides the AOSP is using Google’s connectivity check to my knowledge.
LOS comes with no Google apps or play services, you must install those yourself.
It’s lineageOS + µG + their assortment of default apps, including i.e. their app store thingy.
This phone, with e/OS, is my dream phone right now. Just need to wait for my iPhone 12 to die…in like 5-10 years :D
nightauthorI want to replace my iPhone 11 Pro bc the faceid scanner is broke. (Someone didn’t close the drybag properly and some water got into the phone through the earpiece)
But as annoying as no faceid is, I just can’t fully justify getting a new phone. I tried to get it fixed by apple ($550 for a replacement phone) and by iPad Rehab (said they can’t fix it)
So, idk….
I'd like one of these but I'm not sold on De-Googled
Same. In my experience as well, almost all alternatives to Google Maps either:
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don't have Android Auto support (a must for me)
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don't have local coffee shops (you'd be surprised how often these apps fail to find 7-Brew coffee shops...)
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don't actually give you enough time to turn (Waze... Which is also owned by Google btw)
Waze is the closest of these but man it's annoying with that third bullet point. It's also not FOSS.
I can only imagine Magic Maps falls into one of those three categories too.
Organic Maps is surprisingly good. Not fantastic, no - but it can highlight coffee shops or restaurants or gas stations on your route
I definitely like Organic Maps the best of the options I've tried, but unfortunately it doesn't have Android Auto support.
It looks like they tried to do Android Auto support about a year ago in a branch, but they abandoned the branch. There is a new "aa" branch that is active though, so hopefully that works out.
If it does get Android Auto support, I will definitely switch to it permanently though!
RossoErcoleYou can also use normal android on it, it does come with stock option too
I make regular use of software that requires both SafetyNet and up to date security patching unfortunately. I'd love to run something like Lineage on Fairphone if it could meet those requirements.
as I said, you can buy a Fairphone that isn't degoogled, the degoogled version is an option is not mandatory. If you have those requirments but still want to use a Fairphone, you can buy one that fullfills them.
The article says only the De-Googled version will be sold in the US, for now anyways
Oh I didn't know, but I would think that you could regoogle it
BonfireOvDreamsLike many of you, this was a much desired phone. Now I’m just left wondering how soon their next phone releases. If I’m focused on eco friendly I may as well also stick with what I’ve got until then.
Yeah, the most eco-friendly thing anyone can do is keep using the phone they have.
Looks like my next phone is decided on.
CustomROMs fun and all but it is a bit of hussle.
Interested to buy it if it has an SD card and headphone Jack.
upforitbutnotdownforitYeah, headphone jack not optional.
VoytrekkIt has a microSD slot, no headphone jack though.
u/lukmly013 💾 (lemmy.sdf.org)No headphone jack is a deal breaker honestly.
Eh it used to be for me, but genuinely Bluetooth is way more convenient and relatively low power too.
I have a fariphone 4 since it was released and I’m very happy with it. It’s does not have the most powerful or newest specs, if you only care about performance the price is pretty high, but you wouldn’t buy one if that’s your priority anyway and so far, it works great.
joel_feilawooo /e/ the worst name for a great os. I use their Murena as my phone and I would love to have it on a fairphone
Ohhh, I go between Europe and the US a lot and own one of these. Hopefully this means US companies will offer more support for the fairphone 4!
I have it and I'm pretty happy with it, but for some reason I have dropped this phone way more often than any phone I had before. Idk if this is a me issue, but maybe get a protective case from the start (unlike me)
Dangit Fairphone where were you 6 months ago when I was looking for a new phone.
I have a Fairphone 4 and I’m very happy with it. Strong recommend.
I have a Fairphone 3 for several years now and if it dies I will probably get another Fairphone. The camera could be better but I’m alright with it. The audio is broken when recording concerts. But I actually like my phone and it’s pretty robust too.
the most sustainable smartphone is the one that you already have
This is true. When the original Fairphone came out I didn’t get it because I had a working Samsung Galaxy. My next phone was purchased as an emergency when my current phone fell into water, so I had to walk into a phone shop and buy an immediate replacement. But that was the day that I decided to buy the Fairphone 3… Because the phone that fell into water was sealed and glued together, and there was no way to remove the battery or dry it out. It buzzed and beeped to death in my hand taking all of my days with it (internal memory only).
I’ve been rocking the FP3 since then. Upgraded the camera, replaced the battery twice, and once replaced the lower assembly because the usb3 port got damaged and wouldn’t hold the cable.
My wife has the same phone. So I could upgrade to the FP4 and use my FP3 for parts, in case she ever breaks a screen or needs a battery.
A lot easier to buy a samsung and get rid of the bloatware. Much more powerful too. Fairphone seems like a gimmick to me.
Do you understand the selling point of this phone or not?
Very cool news! I’m looking forward to fairphone heading this way.
Hopefully United Staters get the FP4 and we get the FP5
Let me know when it can run GrapheneOS. Until then, who cares?
who cares?
All the people who buys fp.
Ok, you got me there
Mine already runs CalyOS so there’s that.
I mean, good for you. I kinda need my sandboxed google play services, despite wishing I did not.
I am honestly not sure as to what the benefit of that is compared to the approach of CalyxOS with MicroG. It has worked for me perfectly, except for one app, BeReal for some reason gives a pop-up telling that Google Play Services is missing, even though I already have MicroG fully setup and working. Other apps have all worked fine, including Google Apps like YouTube and my banking app.
Lots of people care about having access to that kind of phone hardware option. It does have a degoogled AOSP ROM so it’s pretty fucking good even though it’s not GrapheneOS.
GrapheneOS is maintained by a certain team of people, unaffiliated with Fairphone, and they might develop a branch for the Fairphone if they feel like doing it but they probably won’t since they primarily focus on Pixel ROMs.
dang
it looks like it doesn’t come with an expandable microsd slot
𝐘Ⓞz҉Can we use it for daily use ?
Yes, it’s a perfectly usable device.
Sorry I was thinking for Pinephone ? Any update on that ? Fairphone is just another android but better than major android players.
I love my Fairphone 3. This is great news.
I support the idea, but I’m really skeptical. I bought the fairphone 2 when it came out and it just couldn’t keep up anymore after 2 years. My understanding was that there would be upgradable modules but the only thing I got was a little bit better camera and case.
It would be great if there wouldn’t be the need for more and more models but simply better modules to upgrade with the time.
Fairphone was literally my top choice before I bought my current smartphone, until I found out I couldn’t get it. So this is great, hopefully they still sell it whenever I update my phone (which won’t happen for a few years). Several other people have already commented something along these lines, but I’m just happy about it.
They are pretty cool but you are still stuck with Android so its a no for me.