@tommertron harm is that they practically destroyed XMPP when it was rapidly growing. It never benefits a company to be just a single server in a federated network and not having control over it. Imagine, how can they make money by displaying ads and spying on users, when users can just jump to another server and avoid all of that?
It's guaranteed it will end up exact same way.
@takeda @tommertron This is a weird take, XMPP was never growing wildly outside of the couple large companies who implemented it. XMPP basically didn't exist except for the fact that Google Talk used it, so unsurprisingly, it died when Google stopped talking to it.
If your community doesn't depend on Meta to thrive, it will thrive if and when Meta leaves again.
Many people who were previously on Jabber, switched because it was more convenient (i.e. they later added it to gmail). When they defederated those people didn't come back.
@takeda @tommertron 1. The number of people using Jabber was never significant to begin with. 2. It's unlikely most existing fediverse participants would move to Meta, the other direction is much more likely.
Perhaps a big aspect you are missing is that people were really dumb back then about Google. They believed the company was run by good people. Nobody makes that mistake today.
@ocdtrekkie @tommertron proportionally it was similar to lemmy vs reddit or mastadon vs twitter.
Also what makes you think people got smarter out of sudden?
If anything, I see the opposite, Musk's twitter, with Spez reddit, people seem to not mind those things anymore.
Now with #threads where you have access to only people from Fediverse and threads where you have access to people from fediverse and people from Instagram the threads will seem more attractive. And when #threads becomes more popular, upon defederation people will just stay with it.
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