I've seen 2 or 3 posts in my TL re: App Store privacy info for Threads vs. Mastodon. https://mastodon.social/@jsq/110653072170221591 for example.

I feel like people greatly misunderstand the App Store privacy labels. They're not at all a ground truth you should read without careful interpretation.

- Entirely self reported
- No consistent auditing or data quality enforcement by Apple
- Very vague, both on the scope of categories and what's "collection"
- "May be collected" is a "worst case" statement.

(cont)

- Only data shared directly with the app developer or contracted parties needs to be reported.
- Some categories that aren't vague are way too broad.

Mastodon reporting an empty list here is in fact very obviously wrong. When you log in to mastodon.social from the Mastodon app, you are sharing contact info (email address), identifiers, as well as usage data.

So at the very least you should conclude Threads is doing a better job of informing its users re: privacy than Mastodon gGmbH is.

Overall the App Store privacy labels are a terrible implementation of a potentially good idea. There is no way for a user to figure out how accurately a developer filled that info, and there's no baseline of quality because nobody on the Apple side reviews or enforces this.

Large companies are in fact more prone to over-declaring here because that has ~ no cost except for pissing off privacy loonies (which you can never satisfy anyway) while covering your ass legally.

Disclaimer for this post: I worked for ~2 years as a privacy reviewer for infra services at Google. This is what I would minimally declare for the Mastodon app, from my reading of Apple's policy:

- Contact Info (email address, obviously)
- Location (coarse location, Mastodon stores IP addresses in logs)
- Contacts (your follows/followers)
- User Content (your toots)
- Search History
- Identifiers (handle)
- Usage Data (logs, anti-abuse)

Not far from Threads' list...

@delroth I don’t think that Mastodon (gGmbH) collects these data if you use your own or a third party server.

What server to use is up to the user.

That’s the difference: you can use the Mastodon App without sending data to Mastodon gGmbH but you cannot use the Threads app without sending data to developer of the Threads app.

@teilweise the Apple Privacy Labels documentation/policies make no such distinction. See also https://mastodon.delroth.net/@delroth/110653978499688171 and the rest of that reply thread.
Pierre Bourdon (@[email protected])

@[email protected] and before you go and claim that using m.s is the exceptional case: 1. I disagree given it's a default option; 2. that's not how the policy is written anyway so that would be a moot point. It might reasonably apply for the email address since that information is willingly given by the user, but stuff like Usage Data for example doesn't fit point (4) in the "Optional disclosure" requirements - it's not directly provided by the user, and the user is not affirmatively making a choice.

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