Seriously though, I’m tired of people starting new social networks with investor money. Those investors want their money back and the entrepreneurs starting the social networks are going to need to pay them back with money obtained from the members.

I want the USENET model back. It was the original Fediverse. Community is an outcome of the protocol.

@standaloneSA Usenet was great and it was great being able to use any client I wanted to connect. I enjoyed lots of tech and automotive groups on there.

But the flamewars were brutal, and once it became a vehicle for distributing binary content, its idealized use was destroyed as it became a precursor to the dark web.

@standaloneSA I could likely resurrect the bidirectional NNTP gateway I used to have for my blog. Fed in to an INN server.
@danlyke @standaloneSA wait, what. You've hooked me, tell me more

@kc @standaloneSA So 20 years ago, apparently, I wrote this thing that would syndicate blogs to NNTP via CSS classes, and I forget the details on the newsreader back into my comments, but threads suggest it was working... https://www.flutterby.com/archives/comments/6704.html

I think, despite the enthusiasm, I only ever had one other user of it.

Flutterby™! : NNTP syndicated weblogs for everybody! 2003-11-21 06:29:27.028124+00

@kc @standaloneSA And I think this is the earlier thread. https://www.flutterby.com/archives/comments/6357.html

It's been 2 decades, but I'm sure the code is in Perl, my blog is Perl+PostgreSQL running with CGI, though from those comments I was clearly thinking in terms of parsed HTML over HTTP. I'm not saying it's a good idea, and running INN is a PITA, but I did it once...

Flutterby™! : Real syndication 2003-07-19 02:36:33.057438+00

@danlyke @standaloneSA I found the same for INN. However, I did manage to hack up a half-arsed not so bad solution to running local usenet groups (and external) using Leafnode
@danlyke @standaloneSA just having a read and it looks really interesting to see what you had going
@standaloneSA the problem with usenet is (after all its still there) that there's no proper moderation. Everybodys free to put any shit they want on there.

@kyonshi
@standaloneSA

Some groups were/are moderated. comp.lang.c++.moderated had less content than comp.lang.c++, but it was better quality due to the mods. I suspect other groups were similar. Still depends on the hard work of volunteer moderators though.

@standaloneSA
So, this might seem like a tangent. But I've fallen down the rabbithole of watching musicians listening to songs they've never heard with their speciality (drums, keyboard, bass) removed from the track which they then have to come up with based on their experience.

Anyways because of the above I was looking through the vids by a bass player called Charles Berthoud, when I came on a video talking about his facebook page being inexplicably locked, with no warning and no recourse, and as a result, he lost faith in social media and was starting up a mailing list to ensure he could keep in touch with his fans.

I'll link the video in question here
here, but the crux is I found it interesting that a person who has grown up with the techbro platforms, switching to a less tech bro solution because of the capricous nature of web2.0.
Piped

An alternative privacy-friendly YouTube frontend which is efficient by design.

@standaloneSA I really liked Usenet.
@dankennedy_nu @standaloneSA Usenet never went away: the users did. (And I remember ClariNet, a commercial service that would provide the UPI wire to paying customers as an NNTP feed. Started by Brad Templeton, the erstwhile moderator of rec.humor.funny.)