When Conquistadors stole Aztec gold — which largely came in the form of cultural artifacts or religious items — they often melted it down into simple, crude even, gold bars for easier transport:
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/gold-bar-once-belonged-aztec-emperor-moctezuma-180973959/

After all, they were not interested in the cultural and religious significance of these items. They just wanted the gold, which they could easily sell to others.

By reducing it to the raw material they destroyed the cultural and historical context. We are all poorer for it.

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Spanish Conquistadors Stole This Gold Bar From Aztec Emperor Moctezuma's Trove

Forces led by Hernán Cortés dropped the looted treasure during a hasty retreat from the Aztec capital of Tenochtitlan in June 1520

Smithsonian Magazine

I think it is fair to say that such destruction of cultural artifacts, such reduction of items that had meaning and significance to people is a type of violence in and of itself, regardless of how these items were acquired.

But of course those who created these works of art and these religious items in the first place, and others for whom they had significance — maybe they were family heirlooms? — were never asked for consent.

Conquistadors took it all because nobody could stop them.

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When #AI techbros train their #LLMs on people's works, these works are similarly removed from their individual context, "melted down" into the raw material — training data. Just disembodied words and phrases and sentences for the model to parrot later.

Historical and cultural and social context of these works is destroyed, melted away.

And it also happens without consent.
And it also happens on a gigantic scale.
And it also happens because techbros can sell the output.

#Writing

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And it also happens because nobody can stop them from crawling the open web and slurping all these cultural artifacts into their training raw materials.

After all, "this was all out there in the open; by publishing it online, authors asked for it to be crawled."

And it also, I dare say, is a form of violence.

And we will also be poorer for it.

#AI

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@rysiek well, you technically CAN by literally blocking their IPs and ASNs, but that'll require #TechLiteracy and people actually investing time and effort in it, thus making tech less accessible for #TechIlliterates.

Corpe problem is how #Copyright and shit it setup to only benefit rich corporations!
https://mstdn.social/@kkarhan/110649611911474303

Kevin Karhan :verified: (@[email protected])

@[email protected] or to sum it up like #CGPgrey did: #Copyright as it exists today solely serves #Corporations and their #profit motives, neither #creatives nor #society... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk862BbjWx4

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@kkarhan you can block ASNs and IPs, they can start using Tor or cycle through IP addresses. And they have enough resources to do so.

It's not about tech literacy, it's about power dynamics and resource differential.

@rysiek well, botting trhoug #Tor doesn't work well - and whilst one could do an #OnionService and forcibly redirect #Tor #ExitNode IPs to it [ https://github.com/greyhat-academy/lists.d/blob/main/blocklists.list.tsv#L17 ] your core argument is OFC valid, as this would mostly stall them until they invested heavily into @torproject infrastructure themselves...

As long as IP adress space and bandwith are purchaseable with money, the internet WILL INEVITABLY reflect the injustices and inequalities of #capitalism.

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@kkarhan exactly. And so while tech literacy is important (I've been shouting this from the rooftops for quite a few years now), the focus here needs to be on these injustices and inequalities. They're the cause.