Aral Balkan
Femme Malheureuse@aral Imagine if this Tesla owner had been locked inside his vehicle in the heat instead of locked out.
https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-owner-locked-out-12-volt-battery-died-heat-2023-7
Foolsgarden@femme_mal you merely use the inside door handle to get out. No electricity required.
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Right after you 'merely' find out where the Emergency Manual Release (handle or cable) is hidden.
Right after you 'merely' find out where the Emergency Manual Release (handle or cable) is hidden.
@dec23k @femme_mal it’s not hidden. It’s a regular door handle that is located where door handles usually are. Teslas have plenty of issues with things like “autopilot” but that is not one of them. Just sayin’.
@foolsgarden @dec23k LOL so you're saying a door mechanism which is operated by electronics from the outside and operated physically from the inside will *never* fail when the battery suffers a catastrophic failure potentially taking all electronic controls with it at the same time.
Got it. What incredible faith you have in Tesla vehicle brand. https://www.enjuris.com/defective-products/tesla-battery-fire/
@femme_mal @dec23k it’s not a matter of faith. It’s just how the mechanical door handle operates. That’s all.
@foolsgarden @dec23k Okay. Sure. A mechanical door which is also attached to electronics for opening *always* works this way.
Even when a battery explodes. Got it. Bookmarking this just to remind myself that the individuals fried inside a Tesla could have simply operated the door handle from inside.
Have a nice life. Enjoy your Tesla.
@femme_mal @dec23k um. If the battery explodes you won’t be opening the door in any case.
I understood your comment to pertain to the opening of the door in case of a dead battery.
@foolsgarden @dec23k There are many ways for a battery to die.
Fire and explosion have proven to be one of them.
@femme_mal @dec23k well. Ok. Next time I hear someone say they have a dead battery I’ll be sure to ask them if it exploded :-)
@foolsgarden @dec23k As I said, have a nice life.
@foolsgarden
I did a search before posting the above.
First result:
https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_us/GUID-7A32EC01-A17E-42CC-A15B-2E0A39FD07AB.html
"Model 3 doors are electrically powered. To open a door while sitting inside, press the button located at the top of the interior door handle and push the door open."
"To open a front door in the unlikely situation when Model 3 has no power, pull up the manual door release located in front of the window switches."
Not impossible, but definitely not the same as typical car door handles.
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@foolsgarden
The manual also says: "Manual door releases are designed to be used only in situations when Model 3 has no power", which seems to be intended to discourage their use during 'normal' operation.
So, the typical user won't have any muscle memory for using the mechanical release, when they are suddenly involved in a no-power situation.
And that's just the front doors.
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@foolsgarden
Rear doors, from the official manual:
https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/models/en_eu/GUID-7A32EC01-A17E-42CC-A15B-2E0A39FD07AB.html
"To open a rear door in the unlikely situation when Model S has no power, fold back the edge of the carpet below the rear seats to expose the mechanical release cable. Pull the mechanical release cable toward the center of the vehicle."
I'm happy to learn that there is an inside (front door) handle with a fully mechanical release, but that rear door release cable is definitely hidden.
Hidden under the carpet.
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@dec23k it is just the front doors as you said. Not good in an emergency! But they are positioned where the handle should be. No muscle memory needed. In fact I had to train myself not to use it because I was used to a regular handle. Seems to take more memory to not use it ! :-)
The window is frameless, like on Mercedes etc. When you open the door with the button, it lowers the window a bit to protect the glass
They should have it on the rear doors too, but they didn’t ask me :-)
@foolsgarden
That "save the window" dance is probably why the manual says not to use the handle. It's not just 2 mechanisms acting on the same lock.
That "save the window" dance is probably why the manual says not to use the handle. It's not just 2 mechanisms acting on the same lock.