my city is run by the sort of traffic engineer that has never seen an intersection he didn't think could use a 4 way stop
the 4 way stop is without a doubt the worst traffic pattern ever devised

"there's too many accidents at this intersection, people just aren't paying attention to cross traffic, what can we do?"

genius: "lets make them keep track of three directions of traffic so they can determine the right of way by timing the precise moment all the other cars came to a stop and hope they all make the same conclusion"

@queso roundabout truther
@Helmickeymouse @queso
I just experienced a roundabout that was converted into two different 4-way stops, like 40' apart. THAT is the worst intersection.