@gamingonlinux is that going to stop you playing his games though?

@mariusor @gamingonlinux I would like to reiterate my previous statement about hating The Witness perhaps more than any other game I've played, so I don't have any interest in ever playing Jonathan Blow's further works.

@rezzyreksya I'll grant you that I was more into the Witness as a technical and pretty piece of abstract art than as a game (I think I didn't reach the half of it). But to hate it, I can't say I understand. :D Can you give an abstract?

@mariusor I posted something about it a while back but it's a faff to find that stuff. Basically the game felt deeply antagonistic to me and did a load of stuff I *really* hate like hardly ever explaining it's own rules and then still telling you you're wrong over and over again, plus the whole environment felt dead and sterile. I spent a few hours on it and my initial intrigue with the concept developed into a deep hostility toward the entire experience. It's like it was built specifically to frustrate me.

@rezzyreksya yeah, I agree that once the witness grows into an "open world" it can become confusing, but my impression on Blow's puzzle building experience is: if the current one seems to be using different mechanics than you've used so far, it means that you're off the path he planned for the players, and it's just a matter of finding that. Maybe that's a terrible combination with the "open world" concept, but I see him using it again in the game he's working on currently (a Sokoban like).