@ocornut EU cookie law is not the problem. You don't need to ask for consent for essential cookies, like the ones that store your login session ID or the shopping cart in a web store.

Every time you see the cookie popup, it's about selling your browsing data to third parties.

We see these popups everywhere and the reasoning is "the EU did something stupid", but it's the opposite. They caught the thieves red-handed.

"We value your privacy." Yeah, no shit. By putting a monetary value on it.

@wolfpld @ocornut unfortunately, (even serious) website owners nowadays want a popup even when they would not need one. Because people think sth. is broken if it's missing. On the other hand, in my experience there is quite a bit room for discussion what is technically necessary. Matomo opt-out cookie? A cookie to "prevent" the most blatant fraud in an anonymous survey? Readspeaker or other 3rd party assistive technologies?

@colognella @wolfpld @ocornut
The ICO guidance is fairly clear on this:
“It is important to remember that what is ‘strictly necessary’ should be assessed from the point of view of the user or subscriber, not your own. So, for example whilst you might regard advertising cookies as ‘strictly necessary’ because they bring in revenue that funds your service, they are not ‘strictly necessary’ from the user or subscriber’s perspective.”

I don’t think you could argue that matomo opt-out or blocking multiple survey submissions is strictly necessary from the users’ perspective. There are some examples in the guidance too.

https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/direct-marketing-and-privacy-and-electronic-communications/guide-to-pecr/guidance-on-the-use-of-cookies-and-similar-technologies/what-are-the-rules-on-cookies-and-similar-technologies/#rules9

What are the rules on cookies and similar technologies?

@martiell @wolfpld @ocornut yeah, that's my point … Although I'm a cookie-minimalist and mostly agree with your first statement, it's not always black and white. You might need the unpopular popup even if you are not "selling data to third parties" but use cookies for more or less legitimate and mostly useful (for both sides) purposes that are nevertheless not "strictly necessary".
@colognella @wolfpld @ocornut Ah, yes. I think we’re in agreement then. That said, I think there’s an assumption that pop-ups are required for non-essential cookies, which isn’t really the case.
Seems like a lot of people forget that you can obtain consent without a modal pop-up on the first page load, just because analytics is such a common use case.
@martiell @wolfpld @ocornut yes, e.g. for embedded 3rd party stuff like videos, maps etc.