@ocornut EU cookie law is not the problem. You don't need to ask for consent for essential cookies, like the ones that store your login session ID or the shopping cart in a web store.

Every time you see the cookie popup, it's about selling your browsing data to third parties.

We see these popups everywhere and the reasoning is "the EU did something stupid", but it's the opposite. They caught the thieves red-handed.

"We value your privacy." Yeah, no shit. By putting a monetary value on it.

@wolfpld @ocornut
Not really about selling your data. Most of it because they show you ads, and that requires third party cookies.
Sometimes my IP is seen as from the EU and I can tell you it's a horrible experience.
I use incognito, and the popups are insane!
The only way you can browse is by accepting these cookies, and it's almost impossible to browse incognito, in other words it's doing the opposite of what it's supposed to do.

@samir @wolfpld @ocornut

First of all, the law requires denying consent to be as easy as accepting cookies. Sites could just default to no cookies, with a small cookie banner across the bottom of the site. They do the full page multiple choice pop-ups to annoy you on purpose and to turn people off from supporting GDPR. Fuck that.

@ablackpanther @wolfpld @ocornut
Sites cannot default to no cookies. They need to earn money somehow (ads)
How many newspapers do you subscribe to?

The law is actually very specific, and does require consent

@samir @wolfpld @ocornut

They can absolutely default to only necessary cookies and non personalized ads. And incognito browsing is not this secure browsing you seem to think it is.

@ablackpanther
I did not say "secure" and incognito alone is not enough, but it is a very important tool, and much better than not using it (because you want the website to remember your consent lol(

So you didn't answer the question, how many newspapers do you pay? Let me guess, zero

@samir So how much less money do they get from non-targeted ads? Maybe a few cents.

Asking about how much one person pays for website subscriptions is irrelevant to the discussion of the larger ecosystem.

@ablackpanther it's actually very relevant, I am very familiar with the space. A very small percentage of people pay because most think they are entitled to free services.
Most people don't understand that free means you pay with things other than money.

And non targeted ads are garbage, the brokers would stop sending you good ads because you don't convert.

People who came up with this stupid idea have no clue how it works or how to solve it.

@ablackpanther There are many better ways to solve than this cookie consent garbage, which IMHO makes things worse not better.
Honestly I had to use a VPN so I get seen outside the EU, because I either had to turn off Incognito or put up with a horrible experience