Malls are such sad places now.

Barely half the stores have tenants. People sleeping in massage chairs desperately placed in ‘high traffic’ areas.

Like, yeah we need to fix our consumption obsession. But I also have fond memories of hanging out at the mall with friends as a kid.

Plus, when you *do* need a product to solve a problem, it’s great to get hands and eyes on them beyond a screen and a buy button.

I hope we can transform these spaces into something more useful to human beings.

@chartier I was actually out at Woodfield Mall for the first time in years a couple weeks ago. Pleasantly surprised at how few empty store fronts there were. Needed a place to work/waste time while waiting for the kids soccer camp to finish up, and the food court was bright and airy, nice and air conditioned. And for a summer weekday, the mall itself felt busy by the time I left at 1pm.
@chartier Also, from earlier this year I think: https://www.westfield.com/united-states/oldorchard/transformation
While not necessarily inclusive (luxury residences) at least they’re trying. Somewhat related note, a friend’s kid (age 10) said he wanted to live in a mall after a recent visit.
Westfield Transformation | Westfield Old Orchard

Westfield Old Orchard

@eric Yeah, living spaces make sense. Although a friend pointed out that the movement to convert all the newly empty downtown office space into residences can be tough in many cases because those buildings were *not* designed with residences in mind.

For example: many office buildings often have few, sometimes zero bathrooms on a floor (maybe just old bldgs?). Which means *zero plumbing was run to that floor,* never mind all the potential converted units.

Sounds like a tough problem to solve.

@chartier Good point about office building conversions and bathrooms. I remember working downtown and using bathrooms on different floors.

However, I think each store in the mall has their own bathroom. I could see a store front being a luxury residence. Old anchor store buildings would be subdivided and there’s probably enough space to run all sorts of infrastructure to support multiple units. Windows would be a problem though. Maybe just cut a hole in the middle for a courtyard.