Lukge1Do you think that Lemmy will last or will it die in a few weeks?
CosmicSploogeDrizzle- Die in a few weeks? No
- Get more users than reddit? No
- Be a place in the long run for privacy minded people to escape corporatism and have discussions about any topic? Yes
Lemmy was here before Reddit and it’ll be around for a long time.
HorseFDPresumably you mean Lemmy was here before the recent reddit implosion
VaggumonIt was here before the Reddit implosion, will be after. Question is, will you be?
I will be. I've had so much fun on Lemmy over the past couple of weeks. Way more than I ever had in Reddit. Y'all are great!
Glad to hear it. I deleted 2 accounts with over 100k karama, and moved fully to Lemmy. I'm here to stay as well. Reddit is dead to me.
I still need to delete mine, but that would mean using Reddit 🤣
Norah (pup/it/she)Yep, I’ll be deleting mine today or tomorrow. Going to scrub my comments history with this first: https://github.com/j0be/PowerDeleteSuite
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I don't think it'll die... but it is a community that needs to be built basically from the ground up, while both the Lemmy/fediverse backend technology and infrastructure are actively being developed. Reddit refugees who want a drop-in alternative to doomscroll will probably be the first to leave.
The success or failure will be determined by the number of people willing to make an effort to post. Whether Lemmy (or the fediverse in general) will exceed the numbers of other services... I doubt it, but we wouldn't be here if we only cared about numbers.
I think it will grow some more when apps stop working on July 1, especially lemmy.world.
After that, we’ll see how erratic and Musk-esque the reddit leadership becomes.
Herr WolandI don't know about you but I'm here to stay. Also, you need to define "die", since lemmy existed long before reddit drama and will be here after their downfall even if users leave it'll continue to exist.
SchlomocucumberI would like to think this is my new home, but I still have a lot of learning to do about the fediverse. I won't be going back to Reddit and using their garbage app and site, but I also still need to learn how to maneuver this new land before it can be a true alternative for me
fossilesqueThe Fediverse will live on as long as two people want to share content. Users ebb like waves on the shore, and the sea level is rising.
gilaI'd favour Lemmy for mass adoption in the long run, mostly because Twitter was never actually that big, and people can just microblog on Facebook or Tiktok. Reddit has far more users that might want to look at alternatives and their realistic options today are this or Tildes, who doesn't seem to actually want most people to join.
I don't think Lemmy would die even if Spez gets fired and they write a public apology for the users inconvenience and step back with the API changes....
I for sure am here to stay!
Draconic NEOHonestly even if they fired Huffman, reversed all his bad decisions, and even went open source again it would still never be the same. They would never be able to fix the damage that they've done.
That's what happens when you stab your users in the back like this.
pannacotta__Maybe, but I think that the branding of the "fediverse" + difficulty of use will make it unlikely to surpass reddit or any other alternatives. It will almost certainly still be around for years to come, but I doubt it'll be much more than niche, despite me hoping for the contrary.
I think for Lemmy to really pop off, some proper iOS apps is needed. There's a few in testflight (using memmy atm) but that's far too complicated for a regular person to do.
I'm also finding a lot of things a bit unintuitive, especially after being used to how reddit works.
Might just be the app I'm using, but finding new communities and content is a bit cumbersome.
What benefits do you want/envision from a native app over a PWA?
Same benefits we got with RIF/Apollo over Reddit. I'm not gonna mention any specific ones but the idea is that the devs of Lemmy can focus on working out site bugs etc. while app devs can focus on adding features not currently available on the web.
But Lemmy is open source, so any improvements could just be made to Lemmy's frontend/PWA, maintaining a bunch of native apps made more sense when they were hacking around closed source limits.
Personal opinion: activity will spike around now, then plateau not much lower than its peak. It'll probably never be as popular as Reddit. I imagine most people will run into some minor inconvenience, then never try to use it again, and the rest of us will be here for years.
I guess a big spike is still ahead, which will be around Saturday, once the 3rd party reddit apps shut down for good.
I think the entry barrier is still higher than reddit. So I doubt we'll see reddit users migrate by the millions because not everyone believes in free and open platforms like most of us do. But I'm excited to see what happens on Saturday when 3rd party apps shut down.
undefined> because not everyone believes in free and open platforms like most of us do
It's more the "masses" don't care, they want instant and easy gratification. Doesn't matter in the least platform the content is on as long as it satisfies their needs/wants at that moment.
DreamButtLemmy might pass for various reason, but the protocol wont. It's here to stay until a better protocol comes along
BenHmmm the main question is whether it can get it's content to show up in search results - this being the main selling point of Reddit and other platforms.
Right now, if you help someone fix an issue it's pretty much walled in and unavailable.
egeresYes, getting lemmy's SEO's good enough that it can even be compared to reddit's is a difficult battle to fight since the latter has 18 years of inertia, I guess it all comes down to a matter of pumping the OC and high quality content consistently for a very long time
agreed, is there any way to fix this?
i’m fairly certain that it really just depends on the google web crawlers to find and index pages. but if the posts are public that’s just a matter of time.
even with reddit, a post has a new URL so takes some time to be indexed by google or other search engines.
so maybe it’s just a matter of delivering relevant content over time so that lemmy results get preferred over others
GustavoMThe damage is already done on plebbit, and I don't think they'll return to "its former glory" anytime soon.
As long as Instances don't defederate other instances over petty issues , this should go strong.
Sota4077This place has existed for a lot longer than the last month.
Margot RobbieI don't think Lemmy will ever get the mainstream attention that reddit has to get big celebrity AMAs, but that may be a good thing, if it stays a genuine place like it is currently, people will come.
𝔼𝕩𝕦𝕤𝕚𝕒I'm leaning on content I've seen thus far but- If this becomes the place where content holds people, they will stay. To replace -the other site- Lemmy needs to be the place the general internet comes to for information and community questions. In this early stage people need to cement "this is where to come for answers" with regards to....everything. eli5, me-irl and even ask-reddit needs to come here. We joke about how Listicles hijack Reddit content but that's a sign of healthy creation at work. It gets the average non-reddit user conscious of the product and to come there when they have a question.
What needs to happen is lemmy needs that. It needs to enter the public conscience as an information nexus. To what degree is up for debate of each Instances admin. Beehaw straight said "nope"
I don't think reddit is that important to warrant replacement. Should be building something new and better on top of its ruins.
But I agree, good original content by passionate people is what makes people stay.
I’ll certainly be staying. I like it here so far!
joneskindI think and hope the fediverse will thrive in the years to come. It's the only way for us users to keep control over the platforms we use and feed.
It's time for the healthier internet we deserve. Networks like Facebook and Twitter have pushed toxic content to their users solely on the purpose of creating engagement. The World would be a very different place if that content had been moderated correctly instead of being pushed toward suggestible population.
I won't go back.
dylanTheDeveloperAslong as I can't shit post and talk about video game development I don't care where I am
Give me your a good Bethesda hot take, please.
Lemmy will last because it was already around. I don't think it will die in a few weeks. Today is my first day using it and I love it. I'm sure anyone who tries it will like it, too.
dezmdI just need the RIF client made into a LIF client to solidify the permanence of Lemmy.
jelloeater85I just replaced where the icon was on my phone
Definitely will stay around, yet, realistically speaking, I don't have much expectations about this endeavor even scratching reddit's monopoly in the next 1 ~ 3 years (I hope I'm mistaken), who knows what will happen in 10 or 20
I think it’s here to stay, and it makes me hopeful that we can get a somewhat mainstream version of the Internet as originally envisioned. The corpo hellscape we have right now is garbage.
TinMausIt's really up to us to keep it going. I think it will make it.
i will be staying
I’m having fun here and it’s scratching my online discussion itch. I’ve barely been back to Reddit and when Apollo dies I think I will not go back at all. 16 years on Reddit and almost 300K karma.
Like others have said, who knows if it'll last, but at least I'll be giving it my best try (even commenting, when I'm usually just a lurker)
I think the fragmentation and defederation will kill it
I'm worried that you'll see users keep advocating for defederating instead of just blocking communities themselves.
You get people who think free speech is fascism, and then people who think free speech means you should use to espouse racist and hateful bullshit.
I don't have high hopes for this lasting long, though I do wish it will.
I've tried to participate in a few communities only to eventually realize I'm posting in a dead/defederated copy.
I'm trying hard to make this work, but it feels like there's really not much here outside of the standard "DAE fuck spez???" stuff.
It's a big problem. A few loud voices are ruining the fediverse for everyone.
Lemmy is turning into a left-wing echo chamber. The mods have declared that right-leaning opinions are not welcome and are defederating from any right-leaning instances. If you declare that half the population is not welcome, you're really limiting your reach. It's also going to be a pain to have two logins, one for lemmy.world and one for the free speech instances.
db0Freedom of speech for you, freedom of association for us. It’s all freedom.
Lemmy is really the only solution because it is becoming as indepth as reddit is/was. What sucks is it will still be like a splinternet situation, having to spread all of our solutions across the internet.
MapleI sure as hell hope so. After everything that's happened over at Reddit I don't feel like going back. I'm not one to come back to anabusibe relationship ya know? So like yeah I hope Lemmy lasts it seems to hold up well against the Sands of time at the very least, if it lasts as long as Reddit and things go south instead of having to jump ship, you can just migrate servers. Plus, at least at this point in time, there have been no red flags, all we need is for the userbase to participate.
If that happens I'm going to see it as an opportunity to go no-social media for a year. I've done this with other things, for example not buying clothes for a year, and my habits have changed permanently with each exercise. I'm convinced that if you can do it for a year, it starts to become part of the fabric of who you are, and if that's preferable you're unlikely to backslide.
It depends on the growth curve. Right now it's exponential, which means it will keep growing. When you see it stay linear for a while, it'll probably start to flatten. At that point, it's either big enough to stick or it's not.