Liam @ GamingOnLinux šŸ§šŸŽ®Jun 26, 2023

Re: RHEL CentOS git changes. They now make it clear their recent changes were to stop others repackaging into other distributions.

I do *get* what theyā€™re trying to say. Simply allowing others super easy access to repack doesnā€™t make business sense for them.

However those two paragraphā€™s donā€™t help how they look and directly contradict each otherā€¦.

Literally goes from ā€Donā€™t build from us you freeloadersā€ To ā€œBuilding from others is what open source is all aboutā€.

https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hats-commitment-open-source-response-gitcentosorg-changes

Red Hatā€™s commitment to open source: A response to the git.centos.org changes

More about Red Hat's decision to make CentOS Stream the primary repository for RHEL sources.

Show threadRobin Edser Jun 26, 2023

@gamingonlinux they don't contradict to me if taken in the context of the whole blog post.

The first is referring to simply repackaging and rebranding a project then presenting it as your own. In other words what all this fuss is about.

The second refers to the relationship between RedHat and Fedora, or Ubuntu and Debian. Building on, improving and contributing back.

Show threadLiam @ GamingOnLinux šŸ§šŸŽ®Jun 26, 2023

@fossrob but if the code is open source and the licensing allows it, repackaging and reusing is all in the entire spirit of open source

Creating a fight between upstreamd and downstreams is not going to help anyone.

Show threadLiam @ GamingOnLinux šŸ§šŸŽ®Jun 26, 2023
@fossrob But as said elsewhere by me: theyā€™re not actually doing anything wrong with their changes
Show threadRobin Edser 
@gamingonlinux well yes. It would be great if none of this were necessary though and RHEL was simply available for free (with optional paid support like Ubuntu). But let's be honest, Ubuntu is only in recent years finally starting to be profitable after more than a decade running at a loss. Would they have made it this long without a billionaire benefactor all those years? šŸ¤· I'd rather Red Hat remain a successful business and continue to do the good it does.
Jun 26, 2023 at 9:05pmWeb
Show threadā˜ƒļøkarolherbstā˜ƒļøJun 26, 2023

@fossrob @gamingonlinux yeah.. It think this is a big part of what was missing in the discussion around that topic. Does it suck what RH did here? Most certainly, but most of Open Source are not sustainable. A lot of projects are maintained by people doing it in their spare time besides their "real job".

What if they burn out? What if they just disappear? We finally have to have the discussion on: what is all that worth to us and companies stop treating it as something they can get for free.