Tom EastmanJun 16, 2023

Twitter is falling apart. Reddit is falling apart. Facebook fell apart ages ago. Meta is a trashfire. Instagram is baloney. Google can't even search for anything you want anymore.

You know what website still miraculously works?

Wikipedia.

You should donate to keep it that way.

Show threadCogito-Ergo-SumJun 16, 2023

@tveastman -
It is beginning to look a lot like a conspiracy, isn't it? 😉

I think the sites where "we", ordinary users & subscribers, are still trusted and in control to generate content are still the most reliable.
The drive to monetize and control content is what will kill the Internet, I think.

Show threadSparkJun 16, 2023
@WiseWords @tveastman I am a lot more worried about the fall of net neutrality - that is the real killer. At the end of the day, it is pretty fair to ask for money to run computers - that takes energy! But as long as you are free to run your own computer, connect it to the internet, and get a publicly regulated DNS to direct traffic to it, anything is possible. If ISPs get to pick parts of the internet with winners and losers, it's over.
Show threadhambach18Jun 16, 2023
@spark315
I live in the UK, we recently got fibre internet and I cannot direct traffic to my computer. They do not offer ipv6 at all and ipv4 is via cgnat by sharing one public address with several others.
If I want to run a server I need to rent one in a data centre or run an onion service in the tor network.
Accessing ipv6 websites is possible only via tor, vpn or proxy.
Ipv6 via tunnelbroker.net does not work.
@WiseWords @tveastman
Show threadetsy  Jun 25, 2023
@hambach18 @spark315 @WiseWords @tveastman this is how ISPs in the us has been since I can remember. I've never had a static IP in my life and only got an ipv6 addr a year ago.
Show threadSparkJun 25, 2023
@avrin @hambach18 @WiseWords @tveastman yeah, but you have also probably never been behind cgnat.
Show threadetsy  Jun 25, 2023
@spark315 @hambach18 @WiseWords @tveastman just confirmed with a quick search around and it appears my ISP, as well as most others, employ cgnat to conserve ipv4 addressing pool.
Show threadSparkJun 25, 2023
@avrin @hambach18 @WiseWords @tveastman I've never been on one. Mostly, ISPs use regular NATs. https://nfware.com/blog/what-is-the-difference-between-nat-and-cgnat
What is the difference between NAT and CGNAT?

Network Address Translation (NAT) and Carrier-Grade Network Address Translation (CGNAT) are two technologies that allow devices on a private network to communicate with devices on the public Internet. While both NAT and CGNAT serve similar purposes, there are some key differences between the two that are important to understand.

Show threadetsy  
@spark315 @hambach18 @WiseWords @tveastman afaik, nat and cgnat can be, and often are, employed at the same time, one is at the consumer end (your router) the other is at the ISP end. it's quite annoying having no port forwarding options. not sure why ipv6 adoption is so slow
Jun 25, 2023 at 1:22amWeb
Show threadSparkJul 2, 2023
@avrin @hambach18 @WiseWords @tveastman tbf, you would have to make sure that ipv6 was running on every single device to make the switch. Wouldnt be surprised if everyone's alexa stopped working or something stupid.