fediverse soon - Lemmy.world

This works on so many levels
It really does. My first thought was a lot of cities where it's run down and depressed and the more hipster artsy types show up for the cheap property and make something interesting. Eventually the affluent catch wind and show up to take advantage of what was created and price the originals out.

Beehaw did it already :)

Not that I blame them.

Beehaw's degeneration is actually temporary. They said they would like to refederate with major instances when there's better mod tools available. The problem is they're only 4 admins and don't really have the capability to moderate that well right now.

yeah, that's what i've read. They're protecting their people, and that's an admirable thing. Wonder where cross instances admin tools are on the roadmap.

In any case our equivalent federated communities are coming up to strength now and we're starting to get decent levels of interactions without them.

they're only 4 admins and don't really have the capability to moderate that well right now

We know, they continually remind us.

In your entire comment history, this is actually the least hostile comment you've ever made. Amazing
Username is assbutt, I expect nothing but shit-talking from them.
Yes, that is good communication. Most people only look at the latest thing. By repeating themselves, the message is the latest thing multiple times, meaning more people see it. Repetition is not a bad thing in mass communications. They're doing a good job
I don't care what kind of job they're doing, I'm not a beehaw user. I find their tone and attitude irritating. If there is a way to filter all beehaw content from my feed, I would love to know what it is.
Go find an instance that's not federated with beehaw. I'm sure you'll find the pleasant people you're looking for
There's a way to fix that...
What happened with Beehaw?
They said fuck you to everyone and isolated themselves
Beehaw is still federated with most servers, they're not isolated. There are a few that are defederated from for differences like allowing hate speech, but the two big ones were to ease up the moderation demands as they had open sign ups without captcha from what I recall. They were the source of a lot of spam and making moderation a headache. The admins plan to revisit the issue if better mod tools are developed, it's still a young platform and better tools could make it easier to moderate without cutting off whole servers.
They want a safe space for their particular values, so defederated with every instance which doesn’t.
As others have mentioned their mod team is pretty small. In addition their motivation is to cultivate a safe space which is hard to do when other more permissive instances are federated with them.
'Tis the reason why they should not consider refederating. Having their own sets of accounts and some strict and underwhelmed modding is sufficient for their purpose of cultivating their safe space. Maybe others won't agree with their methods, but their purpose demands these methods in their space
"Ok you can join but you have to ctrl-a delete all your javascript"
Sorry everyone I'm gonna be going now before it gets too crowded. ..jk. this is a great meme btw.
Apologies from the crest of this eternal September.
“include this”, “include that”, bitch, I don’t want your propaganda in my place, gtfo
The circle of digital life. sigh
Been feeling like this nearly every time I went to Reddit for years now.
Something like this could happen. Some instance admins of Fediverse instance admins met with Facebook. They are trying to include facebooks services to fediverse. I hope they wont do that. Otherwise this meme gets reality.
It's probably fine unless the developers of lemmy_server themselves start to give companies integrations and backdoors.
They will. Eventually. If Lemmy gets public eye big money always wins.

The beauty of the fediverse is that the last panel can't happen.

We control our own instances. There's no world where admins wouldn't defederate from any Facebook attempt to barge in.

Maybe a few larger instances sell out, but users hold the power here now. If an admin betrays our trust, we'll just make a new instance.

Even more than defederating, it's in the hands of users. If people were to flood in from somewhere with bad intentions, it would likely be from one or two servers. At that point, just block those servers/communities from your view and continue about your day

At that point, just block those servers/communities from your view and continue about your day

But what if those servers/instances are the ones which has quality communities in it and what if the users and owners of those communities refuse to migrate to new server/instance? Wouldn't that be the same case of reddit where the user base is split and the new migrated server/instance needs building again?

DING DING DING. Here's Facebook's playbook:

  • Create close sourced ActivityPub implementation to federate with mastodon/lemmy and gain users.
  • Offer better experience than competition via exclusive features, reliability, more communities, etc.
  • Once enough users have been obtained, completely defederate from fediverse.
  • Best thing we can hope for is a competitor to appear or something and then have a very split fediverse between instances, hence you cannot defederate without causing major harm

    In support of your statement, here's the Fedipact, signed by so many servers and communities across the Fediverse to not let Meta (or any other corpo, in that matter) to barge into the federation:

    https://beach.city/@vantablack/110589010586936018

    Me, who only made an account because I was banned from Reddit and has no idea how Fediverse stuff works: whistles nervously
    i guess most of us dont know a lot about the whole fediverse stuff. but the longer you are here, the more you will learn about it. so far, it's pretty interesting!
    No offense, but how do you manage to get banned from Reddit? A certain sub, sure, but the entire website?
    Said that I would murder andrew tate is given the opportunity and apparently that counts as a credible threat of violence
    That is very violent phrasing and you only deem it ok because it's geared toward the "right kind of people"
    I got banned once for telling an absolute cunt that she was one in "am I the asshole."
    wtf thats literally the point of the sub
    You better to stop telling your federal offenses on lemmy lol
    Boooo I disagree tell more
    They ban people very selectively and its always ideologically motivated. There was a period of time where you would get a 3-day ban for just upvoting the wrong posts. So you could lurk and still get banned for some reason. That happened to me multiple times before I decided to delete my account.
    you have my attention, which wrong posts did you upvote?
    It's easier than you think. I have a couple accounts that got permabanned because I pointed out that there was mod abuse by "power mods" across multiple subs a while ago. Coincidentally one of those power mods got banned themselves a couple days ago.

    It's pretty easy, i got banned from a couple of subs for being left-wing (apparently calling out brigading from far-right subs was against the rules).

    But i got a sitewide ban because I used an alt to ban evade (can't remember the exact post, but somebody was asking for advise wrt to COVID in a legal sub (I was originally banned for for encouraging a user to get funny but illegal payback on their neighbors), and it felt urgent enough that I was fine getting banned.).

    Once you get a siteban, trolls will flag report all your posts even on subs your not banned from, or at least whenever I brought up that r/UKpolitics is modded by a literal fascist, I'd get a new site ban for "ban evasion", to the point where pretty much any encounter with a far right troll or YIMBY would get me a ban.

    The admins also seem to work very closely with certain moderators, as was shown when they leaked a trans employees information to TERFisland subs.

    So while powermods can't get you a sitewide ban, some have the ear of the admins who can keep an eye on you until you break a sitewide rule.

    And on a site which has alt-right subs, it's hard to at the very least walk right up to the line on the rules wrt treating all commenters like humans.

    Banned from Reddit? What’d you do, tell Spez to go fuck himself?
    It's often enough to say a bad word about russians and you get permabanned.
    Meanwhile I fled to Lemmy from Reddit because I need a place to show art without being under some platform whose vision and actions I don't support
    Pixelfed is viable option too, i would love to see your art there!
    you should be able to follow him from pixelfed. that's kind of a point of fediverse.
    we're in the same boat haha

    I mean, that's what already happened with Lemmingrad.

    I personally don't care what their opinions are, but funny thing is that they can defederate from pretty much all instances where they feel attacked. As long as this doesn't change in the future with the fediverse, I'm okay with that

    First post with 1000 upvoats