HypersapienJun 24, 2023

"Cis" and "trans" are different types of a person's.... what?

https://lemmy.world/post/494720

"Cis" and "trans" are different types of a person's.... what? - Lemmy.world

What are cis and trans alternate types of? I don’t think it’s “gender identity” because wouldn’t that just be man, woman or nonbinary regardless of whether they’re cis or trans? Cis/trans just being a qualifier? If the answer is “I am cis” or “I am trans”, what is the question?

Show threadMrShelbySanJun 24, 2023

Please note I’m typing this as a trans man. Being “cis” or “trans” stems from someone’s gender.

Basically, do you identify as your birth gender (not sex, gender and sex are different)? If the answer is yes, you are “cis”. If the answer is no, like I my case, I was born female, I identify as a male, then you are are trans.

I hope this answers your question.

Show threadGaryPonderosaJun 24, 2023
Shouldn't it be that you identify with your birth sex? If gender is a social construct you don't have a gender at birth. When the doctor says "It's a boy" they're referring to the genitalia you have, not assigning you a social position.
Show threadWalrusDragonOnABikeJun 24, 2023
Sex is also a social construct btw.
Show threadGaryPonderosaJun 24, 2023
No it's not. Unless you're suggesting you collectively thought my dick into existence.
Show threadWalrusDragonOnABikeJun 24, 2023
Genitals aren't sex though. They are part of what society uses to create the category of sex. But sex is no more real than gender or race.
Show threadGaryPonderosaJun 24, 2023
Society does not create sex. Society creates gender. Gender is a social construct. Sex is an expression of your sex chromosomes. The genitalia you have at birth weren't decided upon arbitrarily by everyone in the room, they're a direct consequence of whether you have or lack a y chromosome.
Show threadWalrusDragonOnABikeJun 24, 2023
Money is a social construct. That doesn't mean coins and dollar bills don't exist. Sex is made up by society. Genitals are a physical thing. But they're not the same thing. Just like coins and money are not the same thing.
Show threadGaryPonderosaJun 24, 2023

You're confusing sex and gender. Sex is a function of biology. It is binary. There are two sexes, and which sex you are is wholly determined by presence or absence of a y chromosome.

Gender is a social construct.

This is the entire reason that the term transgender is used now instead of transsexual.

Show threadWalrusDragonOnABike

Do you think sex didn't exist before 1912? It seems like you are confusing sex with the rough approximation of the shape of a chromosome and oversimplifying how those chromosomes relates to phenotype.

Trans people change their sex, not their gender. Trans men are men before they start taking T and trans women are women before they start taking E. What changes is their sex. Personally, I hope we see transgender replaced with something soon. Transsexual is fine as a subcategory of transgender people (or a category with lots of overlap with transgender people).

Social constructs don't all originate in the same way. If you want an example more like sex, you can look at the social construct of race. Race is not skin color, but the social construct is related to things like skin color. Just because race is a social construct doesn't mean skin color came after race.

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Show threadGaryPonderosaJul 11, 2023
I somehow just saw this. Thank you for setting the bar at a new low for stupidest comment I’ve ever seen.
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Show threadGaryPonderosaJul 11, 2023
What language did I use? I can’t see my comment since it was removed.