ericfloJun 24, 2023
Am I living in a different planet from the rest of the commenters here? We have much more to gain from this than they do.
Show threadTronesJun 24, 2023

Look up what happened to XMPP (Jabber) when Google "integrated" with them.

https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html

Show threadqazwsxedcrfv000Jun 24, 2023

Basically the sequence of events as claimed by the author is that:

  • XMPP small niche, small circles
  • Google launches Talk that was XMPP compatible
  • Millions joined Talk that could coop XMPP in theory
  • The coop worked only sparingly and was unidirectional, i.e. Talk to XMPP ✅ but XMPP to Talk ❌
  • Talk sucked up existing XMPP users as it was obviously a better option (bandwagon effect + unidirectional "compatibility" with XMPP)
  • Talk defederated

    • This demonstrated exactly the importance of reciprocity. If Meta plays dirty, defederate them then. Now is just too premature. Also frankly it is Meta that has more to lose than the fediverse at this moment as the bulk of users and thus the content are with Meta.

    Show threadfiah

    If Meta plays dirty, defederate them then. Now is just too premature.

    HARD disagree. Meta has been fighting dirty since their inception. There is no reason to put even the smallest bit of trust in them, and every reason to do the opposite. Everything they touch turns to shit, it follows then that you should never allow them to touch that which you hold dear

    Jun 24, 2023 at 1:40pmWeb