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Jerboa app and Lemmy 0.18

https://lemmy.world/post/469761

Jerboa app and Lemmy 0.18 - Lemmy.world

The 0.18 version of Lemmy was announced [https://join-lemmy.org/news/2023-06-23_-_Lemmy_Release_v0.18.0]. This will solve many issues. But we can’t upgrade yet because the captcha was removed, and captcha relied on Websockets, which are removed in 0.18 so despite the devs agreeing on my request to add captcha back [https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3200], this will not be until 0.18.1. Without captcha we will be overrun by bots. Hopefully this 0.18.1 will be released soon, because another issue is that the newest version of the Jerboa app won’t work with servers older than 0.18. So if you’re on Lemmy.world, please (temporarily) use another app or the web version.

Jimmy Lats Jun 23, 2023

Thanks. I installed Jerboa yesterday and it was not working. Glad to know this may be the cause. I can wait for 0.18.1 for mobile access

Darorad Jun 23, 2023

You can install 0.0.34 off github in the meantime: https://github.com/dessalines/jerboa/releases

MobBarley700 Jun 23, 2023

beehaw only seems to support 0.17.4 rn

woelkchen Jun 24, 2023

Beehaw don't support Lemmy.World and other instances that dare to allow anyone to set up an account. They are anti-fediverse.

SpezCanLigmaBalls Jun 23, 2023

Appreciate you waiting for the 18.1 upgrade

jennwiththesea Jun 23, 2023

Thanks for keeping the bots out! I'm still successfully using Jerboa, btw.

AlmightySnoo 🐢🇮🇱🇺🇦Jun 23, 2023

you're probably not using the latest version from the GitHub repo then

Dandroid Jun 23, 2023

I am. It gives me the warning and crashes a lot, but it works a little.

Panda Jun 24, 2023

Is the version on GitHub more recent than the one in the Play Store? The changelog in the Play Store said the update would make Jerboa ready for 0.18 and that's the version I have installed.

KazuyaDarklight Jun 24, 2023

It was old (33) last evening when I checked. This morning it's up-to-date, but I'm obviously not applying it.

HerrLewakaas Jun 23, 2023

Has the websocket api been removed from Lemmy with this update?

Kabe Jun 23, 2023

The Dev's stubbornness about captchas is a little baffling. Yes, they're not 100% foolproof but they help.

It's like arguing that we shouldn't have locks or our doors because a skilled lock picker can pick them.

CosmicSploogeDrizzle Jun 23, 2023

They agreed to add them back. You can read their comments in OPs link

Kabe Jun 23, 2023

That only happened recently, though. For weeks they were replying to instance admins requests to reinstate captchas with things like "bots have beaten captchas, so they're useless."

nulldev Jun 23, 2023

What are you talking about? The issue to bring back captchas was only opened 4 days ago!

Captchas were only removed 2 weeks ago, no one spoke up then: github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/2922

Bring back Captcha · Issue #3200 · LemmyNet/lemmy

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HerrLewakaas Jun 23, 2023

Omg I was just getting on track developing my own Lemmy app based on websockets and now they are being removed... welp

woelkchen Jun 23, 2023

While I understand your frustration, the change was announced beforehand.

HerrLewakaas Jun 23, 2023

Should've paid attention I guess

runswithjedi Jun 23, 2023

That's unfortunate, it's easier for most of the large instances to turn off captcha because they have closed signups. I mainly use Jerboa which is doubly unfortunate. For now I'm going to turn off automatic updates for Jerboa.

Thanks for keeping us up to date, Ruud.

CosmicSploogeDrizzle Jun 23, 2023

If you download Jerboa from F-droid instead of play store you can reinstall the previous versions.

twistedtxb Jun 23, 2023

It won't work if you're registered on lemmy.world, no matter which version of Jerboa you install

eric5949 Jun 23, 2023

I'm confused, I'm literally on jerboa right now. When is this supposed to break?

twistedtxb Jun 23, 2023

It's a catch 22.

If you're registered on lemmy.world, you need Jerboa 34 or earlier. But since Jerboa first checks on lemmy.ml (which requires v18 support) it automatically crashes.

I can still use Jerboa 35 but I can't login on my instance until 18.1 gets released.

Joekeloeris Jun 24, 2023

I downloaded v0.0.5 from github and logged in with that, and then upgraded to 35. It seems to work now.

KazuyaDarklight Jun 24, 2023

33 works fine

KazuyaDarklight Jun 24, 2023

The pains of being not just large, but the largest.

simple Jun 23, 2023

How about temporarily disabling sign ups until 0.18.1? As more apps update to 0.18 it'll be annoying to juggle versions.

Empyreus Jun 23, 2023

Anything stopping new members from signing up is going to hurt the adoption of the platform as a whole.

andyli Jun 23, 2023

There are still many other instances that accept signups, so I don't think temporally disabling lemmy.world signup will hurt lemmy.

However, having a popular client incompatible with a popular instance will annoy existing and new users of lemmy.world.

deweydecibel Jun 23, 2023

This is a classic damned if you do damned if you don't. Right now engagement of the users that are already here and adoption of new users is of equal importance.

s38b35M5 Jun 23, 2023

And to anyone using Jerboa, be sure not to update past v0.0.34 until you see server v0.18.1+ on lemmy.world.

Spliffman1 Jun 23, 2023

Right now Playstore is only showing me v 0.33 anyway so I'm safe af, I'm not going to update Jerboa for now.

idunnololz Jun 23, 2023

Dev of Summit here. Summit v0.1.17 was released recently and this version is backwards compatible and should support both 0.18 and older servers.

Leclipse Jun 24, 2023

Great app btw.

idunnololz Jun 24, 2023

Thank you!

stylishboar Jun 23, 2023

Thanks for being so on top of this.

wason Jun 23, 2023

If you are logged in you can just update Jerboa to v0.0.35 and you'll get a message saying that the app works better with Lemmy v0.18 but it still works.

If you are not logged in, then use Jerboa v0.0.34 to log in and then update to v0.0.35

idunnololz Jun 23, 2023

Fun fact, the reason why login is incompatible between 0.17 and 0.18 is in 0.18, the value of the user's default sort order and "listing order" (eg. all, local or subscribed) was changed from an numeric value to a string (text) value.

Deathstalkr1 Jun 23, 2023

For now i made a shortcut on my phone's home screen to this lemmy instance to act as a quasi lemmy client, works pretty well for the time being.

Restaldt Jun 23, 2023

Lemmy is a progressive web app and can be installed directly

Heres a link to the instructions to install pwas from google Install pwa

... so i read the instructions and its not too helpful. Open lemmy in chrome on android then hit the 3 dots in the top right and near/above the option to open the desktop site you should see an install lemmy button

MattyXarope Jun 23, 2023

Can confirm that this does not work with Chrome on Android.

vaanam Jun 24, 2023

Thanks, worked for me with firefox android.

Rooki Jun 26, 2023

Sad that firefox seemingly cant do that ;(

godless Jun 23, 2023

Jerboa asks for 0.18 to be installed, but works with 0.17.4 mostly without issues.

TheKingBee Jun 24, 2023

it crashes constantly for me now.

Leclipse Jun 24, 2023

same for me.

ikidd Jun 24, 2023

So that's why Jerboa crashes as soon as I log in.

Moved to Connect, happy with that.

DianaIsMyWife Jun 24, 2023

What is Connect?

ikidd Jun 24, 2023

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kuroneko.lemmy_connect

SeerLite Jun 24, 2023

Is it not open source? I can't find the source code anywhere.

DetailObserver Jun 24, 2023

It's closed source. But the dev said that maybe in the future it can be open sourced.

Vcio Jun 24, 2023

same issue

voracread Jun 24, 2023

Lemmymade seems to work for now. But some features are missing there I think.

Wayren Jun 24, 2023

After installing Jerboa from the Play Store I encountered the crashing issue everyone is mentioning. I was able to seemingly fix the issue by going into the App Info -> Storage and hit Clear Storage. After it cleared it's been working fine for me. Hopefully this works for you folks unless I'm missing something about the issue.

s4if Jun 24, 2023

My Jerboa somehow isn't yet updated, so I am safe..

Mario1159 Jun 24, 2023

It's just me or comments posted from this instance to instances in 0.18 don't appear to be syncing?, It's that normal?

OnkelCannabia Jun 24, 2023

Biggest concern for me is the broken auto scrolling/updating. I can't use this site properly as long as the list of topics doesn't stay in place long enough for me to finish reading the headline.

Hopefully after this is fixed I'll start contributing.

Anemervi Jun 24, 2023

Try changing the 1 at the end of the url to 0 as a workaround.

Vulnicura Jun 25, 2023

This works! Thank you!

solrize Jun 24, 2023

Jerboa also won't work with Android older than 8.0 though that's less of a problem for server ops. But it still seems like reliance on unnecessary shiny tech. My 5yo Android 7 phone still works perfectly well and I plan to keep using it a while longer, so I can't use the official Lemmy app. I wonder how fundamental Jerboa's dependence on Android 8 is. Anyone know?