promitheasJun 23, 2023

Wayland pros and cons?

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Wayland pros and cons? - I use arch linux FYI

Hey guys, what are the pros and cons to wayland if I intend to use my PC for gaming + others? Comparisons to X? General impressions? Your advice on if I should use it or stick with X? My PC parts are arriving soon, and while Ive been a linux user since 2016 its the first time I intend to fully main drive linux, so I guess im just looking for as much information as I can get on it. Feel free to post links to articles or anything that will answer if you prefer, we’re on a link aggregator after all ;) and I dont mind reading. Thanks in advance :)

Show threadnachtigallJun 23, 2023

Honestly, depends on you GPU and the game. Nvidia has been quite reluctant with their Wayland support for a while, while AMD is often pretty even. Here are some benchmarks from early 2023. However, recently there were some improvements for XWayland which may improve performance significantly (there was a post on Lemmy just today or yesterday).

If you use a distro/DE that install both by default (like Ubuntu) I'd recommend to just test it and then decide for your case.

X.Org vs. Wayland Linux Gaming Performance For NVIDIA GeForce + AMD Radeon In Early 2023

Show threadpromitheasJun 23, 2023
distro ^ xD Its a full AMD build, so I shouldnt have any issues with the green goblin
Show threadNuuskis
Try Manjaro Sway. Wayland can't get any better than with Sway. Of you prefer to not read the docs and confog by yourself, then go with KDE. Literally zero reasons to use xorg anymore. I've used Sway 2-3 months after dwm and regret a lot I didn't switch earlier.
Jun 23, 2023 at 9:31amWeb
Show threadTiszqaJun 23, 2023
@Nuuskis @promitheas
One reason is configuring custom blanking times with xrandr, without which, my rx 6800 xt chugs 40w on idle with my 4k144hz monitor. After setting my custom timing 4k resolution, it falls to 10w at idle.
Show threadchampe20Jun 23, 2023

Wayland has a ton of issues on Plasma including but not limited to (Not including NVIDIA Issues) (Note that many of these will be fixed in Plasma 6):

  • Applications don't prompt to save unsaved work, causing data loss
  • No session restore for native Wayland windows
  • When the compositor crashes or restarts, non-Qt apps are killed — work is ongoing to fix this
  • Not all Sticky Keys options work
  • No color management or support for changing Gamma
  • KFontView is unable to open or install a font
  • Session-restored windows go on the wrong screens and virtual desktops
  • When dragging files, to trigger a specific result, you have to hold down a modifier key before you start dragging, not after
  • Installed Chrome apps are grouped together with Chrome windows in Icon-Only Task Manager
  • Global Menu is broken for non-Qt apps
  • When using a Chromium-based browser in native Wayland mode, dragging an image to the desktop creates a sticky note out of it