Early stages of Ukrainian counteroffensive ‘not meeting expectations,’ Western officials tell CNN

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Early stages of Ukrainian counteroffensive ‘not meeting expectations,’ Western officials tell CNN - FMHY

Maybe redditors will stop cheering for other people to be sent to die. But probably not.

I would really rather that people stop dying. But that choice is entirely up to the Russians, who are the ones who started and are continuing to pursue this invasion.

They could just go home and this would all be over. This is on them.

Amazing deflection of responsibility. Why are you in favor of forcing people to die for your cause? Go fight yourself.

Then there’s the denying of reality. The Russians aren’t going to go away, even if you send in more conscripts. So the plan is what exactly? Just send in more guys (not you of course) until there’s no-one left?

And you also pull the old kindergarten move of “they started it”, when you know damn well this shit has been brewing for a while. Heck, even if this were true, maybe some deescalation would be wise? But no matter, the other guys are 100% at fault for sure and so your hands are clean.

I also can not believe war mongering people are doing, blaming only one side but also sending other people to die?

Don’t Ukrainians don’t count as people who should live? What will Ukraine look like after this war? How many decades will it take for them to recover?

And now, if you even try to mention peace, you are Putin’s shill.

And now, if you even try to mention peace, you are Putin’s shill.

No, you don't. You are Putin's shill if you mention peace only at Russian conditions. I'd welcome a peace where Russia leaves the occupied territories forever and stops waging war, the people of Donbass, both of Russian ethnicity and Ukranian ethnicity, get more autonomy, Tatars can go back to Crimea, Russians can vote democratically and have independent media, talk and protest without going to jail and all in all live better.

I'm against war and if everyone just lived in peace, I'd be much much happier.

Ah, yes. Deescalate with Putin. Because he has shown himself to be such a reasonable man. If Ukraine stops fighting, Ukraine stops existing. If Russia stops fighting, the war will be over.
The Donbas and Crimea don't want to be part of Ukraine. The war between Donbas and Ukraine has been going on for 9 years. If the people of Donbas stop fighting, they will stop existing.
I’m not going to die for my country or my government, why do you expect Ukrainians to die for this shit?
And because you wouldn't, clearly noone else would either, right?
Nobody is being forced to die for any cause. Ukrainians are fighting Russia because Russia intends to wipe their country off the map. I don't really see why you think you have the right to tell Ukrainians that they don't have the right to fight for the existence of their country.
you lot will really watch some country get invaded by an imperialist shithole, defend itself and say 'well this war is really your responsibility'