The world’s largest democracy is collapsing before our eyes

https://lemmy.ml/post/1435322

The world’s largest democracy is collapsing before our eyes - Lemmy

Sometimes, democracy is the enemy of freedom. In cases like that, which side do you support?

If democracy is the enemy of freedom, either that means it's not working correctly, or the people have a skewed idea of what freedom is.

Who's freedom? Your freedom? my freedom? Freedom of what? Freedom without boundaries is just Anarchy. but who determines those boundaries - who determines what kinds of freedom constitutes "freedom"

The US definition in its constitution defines The five freedoms it protects: speech, religion, press, assembly, and the right to petition the government.

So to break those down

  • You can say what you like about the government, but likewise you can't silence anyone else on their opinion. This means they can state their opinion that you should get fucked when you say an opinion they disagree with.

  • You can practice any recognised religion freely without persecution. (Note: persecution does not stop people from criticising religion, as that would violate the freedom of speech, it stops government persecution from practicing or not practicing religions)

  • It allows the press to report freely - the government can't dictate what the press can and cannot say, particularly when it comes to political and governmental matters

  • Assembly - the right to gather and peacefully protest. - the moment it becomes even the slightest bit violent is when they're allowed to step in.

  • The right for your opinion to be heard in government. You can post your opinions to government officials and have them be heard - likewise, other people can do the same. It doesn't mean the official has to act on it, just that they have to take it into account.

  • As to whether or not these freedoms are being honoured is up for debate. You'll have to read the lawbooks for the concrete legal definitions and decide for yourself if

    • the definition is wrong
    • the current situation fits the definition
    • how you would redefine it.

    As an Aussie I have no say in how your country is run - and my own country has its own issues, but I do impore you to understand the position on the global stage your country has and why it affects us all.

    What makes you think people always want freedom? People support the Taliban and other totalitarian states. Many would gladly support authoritarianism so long as it is their dictator in charge.

    I think the point here is to prevent tyranny of the majority. For example, protecting small religious or ethnic groups from discrimination or persecution from a majority.

    Likewise, the ACLU (American, i know) protects free speech even for very anti-patriotic messages, even if those messages are unsavory to the majority.