fediJun 20, 2023

Was the lemmyverse/threadiverse aware that Mastodon has been convulsed for the past 2 days?

https://geddit.social/post/25976

Was the lemmyverse/threadiverse aware that Mastodon has been convulsed for the past 2 days? - Geddit

Since news leaked out 2 days ago that Facebook has approached Mastodon developers and admins - requiring non-disclosure agreements first - the whole microverse (i.e. mastodon / pleroma etc, the micro-blogging part of fedi) has been talking about nothing but that and Facebook’s imminent entry into the fediverse with an as yet not clearly defined entity called Barcelona or p92. This woud be very roughly comparable to Reddit saying they are going to federate with lemmy. Yet here on lemmy I could only find a relatively small discussion. https://kbin.social/m/fediverse/t/62958 [https://kbin.social/m/fediverse/t/62958] Did the lemmyverse not know or just not care that much?

Show threadElectroVagrantJun 21, 2023

Btw for those curious, Meta/FB approaching Mastodon admins is related to their in-development Project92/Threads possible Twitter-successor/competitor.

As it says at the start of the article, the intent is integrate ActivityPub in it in some way. Concerns are being raised for a variety of understandable possibilities some have mentioned here, or sort of alluded to, such as the corporate practice of Embracing, Extending, and Extinguishing. An idea being that Facebook may only be adopting ActivityPub to in some way screw everyone else using it over.

There's also the possibilities of questionable FB moderation practices permitting a flooding of linked instances with unmoderated FB garbage, scraping data (but since most of the fediverse stuff is public they...Don't really need their own public app to do that), and so on.

Instagram’s upcoming Twitter competitor shown in leaked screenshots

Meta is working on a Twitter competitor that might be called Threads and talking to celebrities like Oprah and the Dalai Lama about being early users. It’ll be connected to Instagram and work with Mastodon.

The Verge
Show threadWiggyJiggyJedJun 21, 2023
Upvoted for mentioning EEE. Meta has been really active in facilitating progress in the opensource community lately with their work on LLAMA, so I'm not surprised to hear they are involved elsewhere.
Show threadSteeveJun 21, 2023
Like much of big tech, they've been open sourcing software for years and EEE is a Microsoft playbook that was mainly used to target competitors, not open source software, from before Facebook even existed. People are parroting it because it's a nice sounding alliteration, but it's a false equivalence that does not apply because we can fork lemmy at any time.
Show threaddustyData
Google successfully EEE the internet. They embraced chromium, extended such that they were the main (only) force that determines internet standads, now they extinguish all competition or obstacles in the ad space by setting the rules. This was done through free open source software.
Jun 21, 2023 at 5:41pmWeb
Show threadMelonJun 21, 2023
They created Chromium, which means it isn't EEE - it just means they created a successful product.
Show threaddustyDataJun 21, 2023
Your three statements are not related logically. They creating Chromium as open software doesn't precludes an EEE strategy. A successful product says nothing about whether that product was part of an EEE strategy. MSN Messenger was a successful product. Both by being universally adopted on the internet and fulfilling its meta purpose. It was intentionally created for (and features were chosen and developed) to displace and kill AOL's IM. And it was later revealed to be 100% part of an EEE ploy. Just to bring the point home, Chromium is intentionally kneecapped and devs fight all the time about feature development because Google keeps it below-parity with Chrome, because Chrome's purpose is to create a de-facto control over browsers, Chromium's purpose is to wash Chrome's face. It already succeeded partially by displacing the competence. Now Google's implement features on Chrome first, even if those features were innovated or implemented before by other browsers, then makes the W3C board change the standards to create the illusion that Chromes was first and manufacturing the facade that it's the best browser. Thus ensuring their domination of the space. It's just basic corporate manipulation.
Show threadCannachequesJun 22, 2023
Would love to see Mozilla come up with a few new standards