Josh BraunThis was such a helpful thread. Not only did I get my half-serious question answered in full, I also came away with some excellent tips and software recommendations. Thank you, Mastodon #Linux community!
jacekpoz@josh another thing, which I'm not sure if it's because wayland's simpler architecture or for other non technical reason - I just haven't seen anything even comparable to Hyprland (https://hyprland.org/) on X11
@jacekpoz Ooh, that is pretty.
@josh it can get **very** pretty after some time spent on configuring it, here's one of my favorite examples https://github.com/end-4/dots-hyprland
@jacekpoz Just for clarity, the software description says Hyprland is a compositor, but is it actually its own window manager as well? Or is it best used atop a bespoke WM like Fluxbox or Herbstluft? The screenshots seem to imply the former, but my experience with compositors has typically been the latter.
@josh
tl;dr X11 window manager <=> wayland compositor
in X11 you've got the x display server (xorg), your window manager (awesome, dwm, i3, ...) and optionally your compositor (one of the 20 million picom forks)
in wayland, what you'd traditionally call a window manager actually is a display server, a window manager and a compositor in one process, and everyone calls it a compositor
@jacekpoz Beautiful. Okay, going to give it a whirl. Thank you!
Daniël Franke 🏳️🌈@josh You mean, other than being able to properly scale apps, support touchpad gestures, have secure screen sharing, and just in general being a much better architecture?
@ainmosni @thomas Vokoscreen is one — screen recording software. It has experimental support for Wayland, but it's crashy and won't sync audio under Wayland. Zoom was late to support Wayland and still crashes intermittently when screensharing under Wayland on my machine, though it seems to be improving on this front. Thunderbird seems to have a bug where compose windows don't get properly de-registered after an email is sent; for a while I suspected Wayland, but it occurs in Xorg, too.
@ainmosni Thank you for the recommendations! I have OBS and use it for things like conference presentations, but for a lot of what I do — dashing off quick feedback videos to students on web design projects, for instance — it's significant overkill. I found an alternative quick-and-dirty screen recorder, Kooha, but I don't like it very much. I will give the Zoom web app a shot!
@josh Also, and this is coming from someone who doesn't screen record often, there's a decent change your desktop environment might have a simple screen recorder included, or at least easily installable.
@josh But you most likely have much more experience in this area than I do. :)
@ainmosni I'm on Gnome, which has a screen recorder built directly into the Print Screen functionality. It doesn't really let you configure audio input, though I may be missing something. I'm sure there are better solutions out there, but I've just been too lazy to troll through the AUR, lol.
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bbaster@josh Better multi-monitor, fractional scaling support, Waydroid, though admittedly still many apps require some configuring or straight up don't work despite claiming to, particularly remote desktop ones (looking at you TeamViewer and Sunshine), and if you have an NVIDIA card it's apparently a painful experience, though I can't confirm this since I use AMD btw.
@bbaster Thanks! Was not aware of Waydroid, which looks very cool.
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@josh 5 words: "bloat bad, wayland not bloat"
@josh my main grype with Wayland is non-functioning or inconsistent copy'n'paste. Some apps work just by highlighting and middle-click, some only work with ctrl-c/v, some just don't allow copying to another app/window at all. None of these problems occur with xorg