Les OrchardJun 19, 2023

Gruber says: "...the idea that administrators of Mastodon/Fediverse instances should pledge to preemptively block Facebook’s imminent Twitter-like ActivityPub service (purportedly named Threads) strikes me as petty and deliberately insular. ... to me this feels like convicting Facebook of a pre-crime."

To me, this take feels obtuse to the point of intention - or at least self-parody. Smells a bit like the whole "paradox of tolerance" folks like to shop around in debates.

Surely you can't possibly be unaware that Meta (née Facebook) already has a rich history of acting badly, that many folks switched to alternatives like Mastodon as a response to that, and many now express wariness & outright revulsion to that same bad actor wandering into a new party?

My dear sweet summer child, don't be a doofus.

https://daringfireball.net/linked/2023/06/19/not-that-kind-of-open

Not That Kind of ‘Open’

Link to: https://fedipact.online/

Daring Fireball
Show threadThe Laughing Muse Jun 19, 2023

@lmorchard I think that individuals can block instances, correct? So that those instances can't slurp down those individuals' content and so that meta's instance is not visible on those users' timelines? That's what I want to do.

Let everyone else make their own decisions - I don't want to decide for them. I =do= want to decide for me.

Show threadLes OrchardJun 19, 2023

@thelaughingmuse Sure, but also some folks join instances that offer certain moderation promises. So. the folks hosting those instances do make decisions for everyone on the instance (ideally) in accordance with those promises. That way, it doesn't have to be a constant repeated individual decision.

In fact, you should choose include that in what leads you to hang out on some particular instance.

Show threadThe Laughing Muse 

@lmorchard I realize that; but I've had to migrate instances twice already since I got here, and I'd like to wait a bit until I do it again. (I don't know if stux, the admin of the instance that I'm on, is planning or has promised to defederate meta's instances.)

It is good to remind folks what tools individuals have. Also...I don't know if I actually have those tools. I just think that I do. (Haven't investigated yet.)

Jun 19, 2023 at 11:43pmWeb
Show threadLes OrchardJun 19, 2023
@thelaughingmuse Yeah, moving sucks, I got nothing for that. I'm tired of living in interesting times, most days
Show threadThe Laughing Muse Jun 19, 2023

@lmorchard Hard same.

Bring on the 'boring times'. I'll even settle for the 'mildly bewildering times'.

Show threadapophisJun 20, 2023
@thelaughingmuse @lmorchard user instance block doesn't do anything against scrapers, it basically just mutes posts from that instance for you

it doesn't even necessarily hide your posts from the specifically blocked instances in normal everyday use - sometimes mastodon users are surprised to find that a bunch of people using other fedi software are having a conversation in their replies without them even knowing