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2023 Canadian Grand Prix Closing Thread

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2023 Canadian Grand Prix Closing Thread - SDF Chatter

As nothing else has been posted, I figured I’d open this up to discussion. A brilliant race, I thought. Lots of fantastic battles. An intelligent strategy from Ferrari. Not too chaotic or arbitrary. Albon fighting on 40-lap old tires for a huge P7. How’d everyone else enjoy it?

Jun 18, 2023 at 7:46pmWeb
Show threadImmortal0861Jun 18, 2023
Admired by Norris's last attempts, just wished he made it for the heck of it.
Show threadWatTylerJun 18, 2023

I love Lando but tbh I was confused by that one 😂 he was never going to outrun the penalty. Looked like he just wanted to take out Ocon for the lols.

I want Lando in the second Red Bull seat. Imagine Max Verstappen having a teammate with balls.

Show threadquintinzaJun 18, 2023
I took it as racers gonna race. Plus, track position is still important givem that an appeal may just be able to turn over a penalty. I guess track position is also why Stroll wemt for the overtake on Bottas as well.
Show threadslielsJun 18, 2023
I love that Albon and Williams 100% played to their cars strengths, and nobody seemed to have an answer for it!
Show threadWatTylerJun 18, 2023
We need to add Alex to the 'tyre whisperer' club. It's one thing to stay ahead of that DRS train, it's another do so when his tyres were so old. I'm so happy to have Albon in the sport. It's a shame Williams aren't in a place yet to have a good second driver, who could also pull shit like this.
Show threadApexHunterJun 18, 2023

It isn't some giant secret; they are super fast on the straights so followers with drs can't get alongside, and are "fast enough" (but slow comparatively) in the corners that nobody can get past them.

We see this pattern from them in every race; they always lead a long drs train, with the car in front of them tens of seconds ahead.

Show threadsorokaJun 18, 2023
Yeah, absolutely. I'm remembering a wet race last year where he went all but one lap on the same tires. Makes me root for him.
Show threadWatTylerJun 19, 2023
He pulled that shit in Australia but that wasn't a wet race. Which were you thinking of?
Show threadRonnoJun 18, 2023
But what did Lando do though?
Show threadWatTylerJun 18, 2023
My understanding is that he slowed down on the race track leading up to pit entry so that McLaren could double-stack him after Piastri. It's against the rules to deliberately go slow and impede like that.
Show threadRonnoJun 18, 2023
@WatTyler makes sense, but its sad that it wasn’t covered in the broadcast
Show threadWatTylerJun 18, 2023
They did discuss it on the international (Sky) broadcast.
Show threadRonnoJun 18, 2023
@WatTyler was unfortunately listening to the Dutch one
Show threadquintinzaJun 18, 2023
They discussed it on the F1TV broadcast as well.
Show threadbruzieJun 18, 2023
They talked about it on the F1 Live commentary.
Show threadcjsolxJun 18, 2023
Interesting that Nando didn't get a penalty for doing it worse at Monaco last year
Show threadSentauJun 19, 2023
I don't remember Alonso driving overtly slowly under a safety car which led to an enormous gap between him and car ahead
Show threadThorry84Jun 19, 2023
Loved the way the penalty was phrased: "Unsportsmanlike behavior". Aka being like a total dick you know.
Show threadWelsh_kiwi10Jun 18, 2023
I know Max doesn't need the help but my god Perez does not deserve that Red Bull put Norris in it or something.
Show threadDavid PalmerJun 19, 2023
Put Albon back in that car, now that he has the experience. He's proving how good he is at Williams.
Show threadBernie EcclestonedJun 20, 2023
Great idea. Do RB still have an option on him?
Show threadfisco™🇬🇧🇺🇦Jun 18, 2023
Enjoyed that one, good battle between Alonso & Hamilton early on, Albon deserved driver of the day... Stroll recovered to a points finish, but really should be doing better, given what Alonso is doing with the same car.. Ferrari just being Ferrari 😅...
Show threadquintinzaJun 18, 2023

Sainz playing strategist from the cockpit yet again.

I wonder what his pace would have been like had he been given the swop around he asked for.

Show threadbazpointJun 18, 2023

Such a great effort for Albon... easy DotD, and huge for Williams in the lower WCC battle. Hope it's a sign that the Williams upgrades are decent & we may see more of it.

Russell cracked under the pressure of trying to stay on the back of Alonso... absolutely insane that the car almost finished the race after that hit... I was surprised it finished the lap! F1 cars are made of strong stuff these days.

Max mega as ever... ominous that Newey appears to be fully invested in F1 again after a few years where he seemed to drift away.

Show threadghoseJun 19, 2023
kudos to Albon and Williams 👍 👍
Show threadNaminrebJun 18, 2023
I can’t understand how Perez just couldn’t compete with Ferrari’s pace at all. Not his best circuit.
Show threadrandompersonJun 18, 2023
Not his best season.
Show threadMatteNov 26, 2023
not the best driver.
Show threadt0frJun 18, 2023
I'm happy that Alonse got something better than 3rd. It was the perfect opportunity for him. Good defense by him as usual.
Show threadquintinzaJun 18, 2023
This is a new Fernando. Killer on track, fatherly figure with his team. I would love a win for him this season.
Show threadjonjJun 18, 2023
He looked so happy in the post race interviews
Show threadt0frJun 18, 2023
Honestly, Alonso has seemed pretty content all season. Almost always in a great mood, even when he's criticizing someone over the radio.
Show threadjanooshJun 18, 2023
Great race. Loved those last lap moves from Norris, Ocon and Stroll. Well deserved DotD for Albon Feeling bad for Tsunoda though, that 6.4 pit stop was painful to see.
Show threadSentauJun 19, 2023
Alpha tauri is a total shitshow this year. The car is bad, strategy is suspect and even the pitstops are hit or miss. Tsunoda has improved a lot compared to the last 2 years but we are not seeing it
Show threadjanooshJun 19, 2023
It's a shame really. This is a team which for multiple decades punched far above their weight with limited resources. Nowadays it's impossible to cheer for them.
Show thread0xteroJun 18, 2023
Albono master class! Dude is driving that shitbox to perfection!
Show threadCedarMadnessJun 18, 2023
He's really come a long way since his time at Red Bull. There's no way that Williams would normally be in the points.
Show threadParelliusJun 18, 2023

I felt he was hard done by at Red Bull. I remember in particular when he got torpedoed by Lewis in Aus but I always felt like he was a pretty awesome driver who was pretty unlucky on several occasions. Honestly felt he could swing it back his way given time.

Then again, I believe his attitude wasn't the greatest at the time and he seems much happier at Williams outperforming the car. It seems like a totally different operation with James Vowles as well.

Show threadGoatTnderJun 18, 2023
Favorite moment was Alonso's pit telling him Hamilton was just 1.9s behind. "Okay, leave it to me." And then suddenly it was a 6 second gap.
Show threadEcksellJun 18, 2023
Agreed, that was brilliant. He got that radio message and instantly switched out of management mode and sent it. That upgraded Aston is fast, and Alonso still has it in him.
Show threadbruzieJun 18, 2023

Weekend Warm-up Pundit Predictions Performance

Pundit__|1st_____|2nd_____|3rd_____|Points ========================================== Laura___|Max_____|Lance___|Lewis___|_____4 Lawrence|Max_____|Lewis___|Carlos__|_____3

(2 points for correct placement, 1 point for on the podium)

Once again the safe choices produce a bevy of points, and Laura extends her lead for the season so far:

Pundit (appearances)|Points|Average =================================== Laura (7)___________|____18|___2.57 Lawrence (6)________|____16|___2.67 Will (6)____________|_____9|___1.50 Jolyon (1)__________|_____6|___6.00 Rosanna (1)_________|_____4|___4.00 Alex (1)____________|_____4|___4.00 Sam (1)_____________|_____2|___2.00
Show threadDamageJun 18, 2023
Good strategy from Ferrari? The end times are nigh
Show threadjonjJun 18, 2023
The strategy was scary! Maybe with Meckies off to a new team someone else is getting a say
Show threadMatteNov 26, 2023
I think they used all the bad choices with sainz… although I can’t blame them, a race here with no SC was really an oddity.
Show threadsupermursJun 18, 2023
Unfortunately I wasn't able to see the race. I noticed that Valtteri scored a point though, so that was nice.
Show threadjonjJun 18, 2023
Valtteri almost had 9th, but Stroll passed him at the finish line for 9th. Find a replay it was an amazing finish
Show threadsupermursJun 19, 2023
Thanks, I need to find this!
Show threadEcksellJun 18, 2023
What the heck happened with Checo? He should have had a podium, but just got lost in a DRS train I guess?
Show threadEntropywinsJun 18, 2023
It seems like he's just lost confidence or something... he's not in the all time greats category but he should be able to push a little harder
Show threadSentauJun 19, 2023
He was also lacking pace. Before he pit for fastest lap, the gap between him and Sainz was biggest gap among the top 6 cars
Show thread_edJun 18, 2023
GG Albon would be my driver of the day. Good to see Williams not running at the back.
Show threadghoseJun 19, 2023

I enjoyed the race. Being honest Max was on his own race as usual, but not that far.

The fight ALO-HAM was very intense, many many laps doing qualy laps each other and putting pressure on the rival. ALO managed the gap brilliantly IMO given the circumstances (lift&coast)

Ferrari's dice was right in this race 😄 Very good and consistent race pace, just marginally slower than podium cars on a diferent strategy. Kudos to them.

Albon: Driver of the Day on merit.

Plenty of action in the race despite the DRS trains

Show threadcheery_coffeeJun 19, 2023

I am loving the Hamilton Alonso competition lately.

I was worried for Alonso, when Hamilton is behind you and you’ve got any vulnerability the Jaws theme starts playing in my head.

When Alonso said on radio “leave it to me” was a great moment.

Show threadrefinetheJun 19, 2023
Decent race. Ferrari finally pulled off 5Head strategy, great recovery run by them.
Show threadPriorProjectJun 20, 2023

My observations are more on the community than the race...

  • This community was amazing this weekend. I was quite active in /r/formula1 and was apprehensive about a race weekend without them. But I don't feel like I missed anything being here instead. News about major developments got posted here, and the discussion was great. If other race weekends are this active, this is my new f1 home without doubt.
  • Moderation was great, warning people about stuff that's gonna be against the rules next week, while being chill about the fact that they're not finalized and everything was clear but just real non-confrontational. Thanks mods.
  • I thought a single discussion post for the weekend would be ok, but for me it wasn't. I was lost in the main thread by the time qualy started and struggling to find new comments or figure out what session a comment-chain was about. It significantly hampered my ability to follow things and I contributed less to the discussion thread as a result. In a change from my take when we were planning last week, I'm now strongly in favor of per-session discussion threads plus a post-race thread like this one. If the modbot situation isn't clear to the moderation team within a couple weeks of Lemmy v18 coming out, I'm willing to pitch in here to get a bot that can schedule posts for us in advance. With the big API changes coming in v18 of Lemmy, I don't think there's much point in trying to get it sorted prior to then. It's likely that any bot that works in v17 will be broken on v18, so I think we just get it going once all the modteam's instances are upgraded to v18.
    • Show threadWatTylerJun 20, 2023

    It's interesting you should say this, as my impression of the sub was the it was dead! I imagine this is a teething issue for the fediverse but when I looked there was no race thread, so I started one! Now I look at Top - Week and see a whole bunch of stuff I never spotted before.

    Very weird.

    Show threadPriorProjectJun 20, 2023
    It was dead 2w ago, but really came alive this weekend. If you were missing posts after they were made, check your language settings and make sure BOTH eng and undefined are selected (or nothing selected seems to work ok as well). Overly restrictive language limits can hide lots of posts that don't specify language.
    Show threaditsmikeydJun 21, 2023

    I took over this sub 16 days ago, when we had 36 users /month. Now we have 10x that and close to 3000 members.

    The growth in the last two weeks has been insane.

    Thanks for the shout out in your original comment. With any luck I'll be getting the rules set up later today. I'll make a post when I do. So far so good though, the general behaviour in this community has been great.

    Show threadEcksellJul 13, 2023
    Yo why is this thread still here?!
    Show threadabclop99Jun 9, 2024
    Why not?