God it's depressing that people believe this is the true nature of downtowns:

"Without commuting office workers, the office buildings go empty, they become worth a fraction of their cost, and retail cannot survive."

From https://innovationnation.blog/p/its-companies-fault-we-dont-want

Cities predate commutes. The hollowed out core that triples in population, swelled to bursting with bored and unhappy suburbanites during work hours, is a modern abomination made possible by cars and structural racism.

What's killing downtowns is that we spent so long on this awful vision of work and spent half a century strangling inner city infrastructure to subsidize incredibly expensive suburban lifestyles.

Want to make downtowns viable again? Convert dead office space to apartments and schools and colleges and other spaces people can work *and* live in.

Good luck with your rezoning applications though.

It's Companies' Fault we don't want to Return to the Office

It wasn't appealing to begin with

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@megmac I live in a country where most (all?) of our cities are safe and liveable. It blew my mind when I first visited an American city that empties into the suburbs at night. It felt post-apocalyptic to be surrounded on all sides with high rises yet I could have laid down in the middle of the main street because there were simply no humans to be found.

@coupland yeah. Even within North America there's quite a lot of variation and even the difference between a city with a tiny amount of residential in its core and a city with almost none is stark. If there's some, stuff is usually open to 8 and on weekends and holidays. If there's none though? Everything shuts at 6, nothing is open on Sundays, and on a holiday you could pretend you're living in The Omega Man.

Cities (mostly outside the Canada/US part of North America) with real urban residential populations are a whole other level though.