Exactly!
@stonedonkey
the pre-christians resisting the spread of the bible in early iron age Europe does spring to mind. Besides, that with you 100%.
@stonedonkey not sure if "Mein Kampf" was officially banned in Germany. But that would be a possible case...
@stonedonkey looked it up: was never banned. However, the German state became copyright owner and did not permit reprints...
@dr_rugby interesting.. I would have assumed it was banned, thanks for sharing!
@stonedonkey @dr_rugby it can (or could) be bought for research purposes from the US.
This was a long time ago when the internet was a baby...
@dr_rugby @stonedonkey Near enough. Bavaria was owner of the copyright. Nowadays it can be sold freely, though, since the author is dead for more then 75 years.

@dr_rugby
No, it wasn't banned. However, the state held the copyright (until it expired in 2016) and did not license new editions. You could buy antiquarian versions (although not many were on offer). So in practice it was impossible to get. Now annotated editions are available.

However, the book is such a confused nonsense that many people said it's not really dangerous. Even in the 1930s few read it, Hitler' success was based on speeches and politics, not this book.

@stonedonkey

@StephanMatthiesen @dr_rugby @stonedonkey Hitler successfully sued a publisher in the US for publishing an unauthorized translation of Mein Kampf instead of the sanitized official translation that left out all the people the Nazis were planning to kill.

@StephanMatthiesen @dr_rugby @stonedonkey

But if a confused, unhinged wackjob were to read it so regularly that it was heavily dogeared?

That might be dangerous.

@StephanMatthiesen @dr_rugby @stonedonkey Hitler must've written like Musk talks.

@Ponygirl @StephanMatthiesen @dr_rugby @stonedonkey oh man, the story is that he dictated* the book to Göbbels (or Göring; i get these two mixed up all the time) whilst in prison in 1923.

So this is, essentially, the ramblings of a mad man in prison...

*pun intended

@StephanMatthiesen @dr_rugby @stonedonkey After invention of the Internet, in practice, you would just download it, if you wanted to read it. I did many years ago, as I wanted to know what this all was about - ooooh dear, what a garbage, incredibly hard to read and without coherent thoughts.
@stonedonkey now do guns, alcohol, & drugs. The good guys don’t restrict people’s individual liberties. Both parties suck
@leaveevery1alone @stonedonkey *sigh*. you really lost the plot w this one
@leaveevery1alone @stonedonkey the time for "both parties suck" is whenever one of the parties doesn't actively engage in delegalizing a group of people. First we push back on human rights violations, then we can debate whether some substances or items should be restricted.
@Vividienne @stonedonkey the right to self defense is a human right. The more our govt encroaches on all of our freedoms the more they violate our rights.
@leaveevery1alone @stonedonkey there's right to self-defense and then there's right to ownership of instruments of wholesale harm. Oh, and no amount of privately owned guns will help if the government decides to come for you, simply because they outspend you
@Vividienne @stonedonkey that take is almost as bad as the “you need f15s and tanks to take on the govt”. We’ve lost the last 3 wars against insurgents. If the next is against the civilians, it would be 4.

@stonedonkey

Rome fell, and for 600 years they burned books, banned education, burned people at the stake, killed witches, had racist pogroms and died in massive plagues and epidemics.

Except for "Rome fell" this description of The Dark Ages, is a CPAC motivational speech for Republicans.

@kevinrns @stonedonkey Nah... they'd be cool with Rome falling if they got all that...
@stonedonkey Separation of Church and State!
@stonedonkey the good guys also write the history..

@fluffery @stonedonkey Mao and Stalin were good guys?

Cool, I'll update my list 👍🏻

@manblues @stonedonkey i was talking about western countries not eastern
But you do you ig, im not stopping you

@fluffery @stonedonkey that wasn't clear from your comment, so there's no need to get upset when someone doesn't understand that.

That's the problem with sweeping statements...

But: you do you 👍🏻

@stonedonkey well, the whole Alexandria, holy wars, Trinity/orthodoxy, dark ages, Inquisition, and heretic/reformist set of things was perpetrated by the "good guys" - if you consider history to be told and not examined. If examined, I'd score it more like a 3/10 because there were moral intents, but you'd probably have to escalate it all as plagiarism anyway.

I see where you were going with that though 👍

@stonedonkey In The Netherlands, Hitler's book #MeinKampf is officially banished to sell. That ban has always been a source for discussion, and when a scientific edition appeared around 2017, the law was not even upheld, and it was put in some bookstores just right next to E W James...
Some historians say that the book is no longer a danger.
https://www.omroepbrabant.nl/nieuws/2841639/mein-kampf-te-koop-in-de-winkel-maar-in-het-oorlogsmuseum-ligt-het-langer-een-onleesbaar-boek
Mein Kampf te koop in de winkel, maar in het Oorlogsmuseum ligt het langer: 'Een onleesbaar boek'

Ooit was het misschien wel het meest verboden boek: Mein Kampf van Adolf Hitler. Er stond een flinke straf op het bezit van het boek. Gisteren is een nieuwe, Nederlandse vertaling officieel gepresenteerd, en is het gewoon te koop. Een goede zaak, volgens de directeur van het Oorlogsmuseum in Overloon. “Dat hadden we al veel eerder moeten doen.”

Omroep Brabant