Tom EastmanJun 16, 2023

Twitter is falling apart. Reddit is falling apart. Facebook fell apart ages ago. Meta is a trashfire. Instagram is baloney. Google can't even search for anything you want anymore.

You know what website still miraculously works?

Wikipedia.

You should donate to keep it that way.

Show threadCogito-Ergo-SumJun 16, 2023

@tveastman -
It is beginning to look a lot like a conspiracy, isn't it? 😉

I think the sites where "we", ordinary users & subscribers, are still trusted and in control to generate content are still the most reliable.
The drive to monetize and control content is what will kill the Internet, I think.

Show threadSparkJun 16, 2023
@WiseWords @tveastman I am a lot more worried about the fall of net neutrality - that is the real killer. At the end of the day, it is pretty fair to ask for money to run computers - that takes energy! But as long as you are free to run your own computer, connect it to the internet, and get a publicly regulated DNS to direct traffic to it, anything is possible. If ISPs get to pick parts of the internet with winners and losers, it's over.
Show threadhambach18Jun 16, 2023
@spark315
I live in the UK, we recently got fibre internet and I cannot direct traffic to my computer. They do not offer ipv6 at all and ipv4 is via cgnat by sharing one public address with several others.
If I want to run a server I need to rent one in a data centre or run an onion service in the tor network.
Accessing ipv6 websites is possible only via tor, vpn or proxy.
Ipv6 via tunnelbroker.net does not work.
@WiseWords @tveastman
Show threadmnemonicoverload

@hambach18
They don't offer a static v4 address for a fee, or do they require you to subscribe to a business grade service for that?

@tveastman @WiseWords @spark315

Jun 17, 2023 at 12:35pmWeb
Show threadSparkJun 18, 2023

@mnemonicoverload @hambach18 A dynamic IP would be fine to (in the assigned by ISP to your router sense, not in the local computer sense) since they share their network with other customers on CGNAT. They will need to have some sort of connection to a dedicated network.

Personally, I think this should be completely regulated so that access to the internet with a router that you won and control is accessible, but that's just me.

Show threadmnemonicoverloadJun 18, 2023
@hambach18 @spark315 Very true. I've just never seen an ISP offer customers to not be behind CGNAT for a fee, but I have seen them offer a static public IP as an additional service.
Show threadSparkJun 18, 2023

@mnemonicoverload @hambach18 That would typically be very expensive right? It's not really feasible to give everyone a static adress on IPV4...

It would be really cool one day to blocking off a few sub-nets so that we could give everyone in the world their own static IP address.

Show threadhambach18Jun 18, 2023
@spark315 @mnemonicoverload
Our isp offers a public ipv4 address only for businesses.
Because there are around 4 billion ipv4 addresses you cannot give one to everyone.
What you can do is give everyone a public ipv6 subnet or ipv4 port forwarding.
Show threadSparkJun 19, 2023
@hambach18 @mnemonicoverload Yeah yeah, I was speaking in IPV6 or above terms.
Show threadmnemonicoverloadJun 18, 2023

@spark315
I haven't checked in a good while, but yes I'd imagine it's only gotten more and more expensive, depending on how large a block of addresses the ISP in question happens to be sitting on. Of course this is part of what IPv6 has always been intended to solve.

@hambach18