@gyokusai Please treat yourself to hearing Charles Laughton read a portion of "Dharma Bums" and then tie Kerouac, Henry Moore and Chartres Cathedral all together in the beautiful continuum of human creativity.You will then be able to nail it down! NPR plays this particular audio every Thanksgiving but you can find it anytime on Google or YouTube. I am not good at inserting links or I would. I think it is called Laughton Chartes Cathedral. Abt 20 min long. Listen to whole thing. Worth yr time