WigglehardI personally dont but why do you think ppl care so much about being downvoted on internet chat forums?
jpgrWhen used correctly (for irrelevant/trolling/toxic comments etc., not for disagreement) it is useful as a community filter.
it has literally never been used correctly and if you believe otherwise I'll downvote you.
okbini could be wrong, but i feel like upvotes make downvotes unnecessary, as upvoted content will naturally be recognized, while comments that don't get upvotes probably aren't valuable (and they might totally be valuable... just unnoticed)
i will say... i do like that kbin shows upvotes and downvotes together. feels less shitty.
alternatively... could be more shitty if you get a ton of downvotes and no upvotes!
Been testing Kbin and Tildes, and I like the way Tildes does it. There are upvotes, no downvotes. Instead, there are also labels that can be applied like joke and off-topic.
Tildes wants to encourage longer, thoughtful discussion so jokes get pushed to the bottom by default.
Currently, no option to custom sort that I could see if, for example, you want to read funny comments instead—and that's fine.
Point is, a better system than upvotes/downvotes would be nice as a general feature for aggregators going forward.
arkcomErnest has said he's open to removing downvotes altogether. I'm sure it will be brought up again.
https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/issues/3
https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/issues/3
Lemmy compatibility
Hello and thank you for your effort. I noticed a small incompatibility with Lemmy's voting that is worth looking into. *Expected result* 1. an upvote in lemmy is an upvote in kbin. 2. a downvote in lemmy is a down vote in kbin. **current result** 1. a n upvote in lemmy is a favorite in kbin. 2. a down vote in lemmy does not appear in kbin.
Ernest has said he's open to removing downvotes
Lovin' this dude more and more @ernest
I hope they don't do this, I'll have to jump ship again. Downvotes are useful for seeing how a comment is actually being received. Say something that sounds true but isn't? You can see the downvotes, without it you only see the upvotes and upvote the person thinking it is the truth. This happened on youtube, you can't tell which videos are actually giving you the right knowledge for say a technical problem, all the bad tutorials just seem to be upvoted. I've also seen highly upvoted comments on reddit that were completely full of shit, you can't see how many people downvoted.
The problem is many Lemmy instances don't use downvotes (like beehaw), so posts and replies from those sites will unnaturally rise to the top and drown out other users.
babelspaceThat would be a pity -personally I think downvotes, for all they can be abused, are a necessary counterpart to upvotes if you’re going to have a voting system at all. “All attention is good attention” doesn’t work well in real life or online.
Now if the change was to allow individual magazines to choose upvotes+downvotes, only upvotes or none at all, I think there’s a better case for that - let people try different systems for different circumstances,