Matthew GarrettHot take: your desire to run your choice of OS on your work laptop does not trump my desire to ensure the safety of data belonging to our users
Val Packett 
🧉@mjg59 hot take: put the user data back on the users' own storage, return to monke, make good old actual software instead of services
@valpackett not sure that asking users to take responsibility for the security of all their sensitive material is a net improvement
@mjg59 but it's so great from the "blast radius" point of view isn't it? breaking in to a client device is an attack against one person, breaking in to a server is an attack against millions at once, poof, everyone is fucked in an instant – that's way too scary!
@valpackett but it's not breaking into one client device, because nobody wants email that's only accessible from one device. And nobody wants to maintain a server themselves, so it's some sort of appliance. And if there's a vuln in that appliance, everyone using that appliance gets popped. So, do you trust the developers of that appliance to be better at security?
Janne Moren@valpackett @mjg59
That line of reasoning sounds close to "Don't build safety systems into cars or the driving environment; let each driver handle their own safety."
We have centralized safety and security concerns in many domains because we did let people handle it themselves at some point, resulting in disasters.