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Am I the only one that cares about the the potential censorship by reddit, more than 3rd party apps?

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/29276

Am I the only one that cares about the the potential censorship by reddit, more than 3rd party apps? - Divisions by zero

I mean don’t get me wrong, I fully support other people’s use of 3rd party apps and appreciate the fact that there are 3rd party app developers, but I’m kinda just like “meh” towards 3rd party apps. I’ve used Slide for Reddit for a short time when I was on android, but eventually decided that browser is better. The more worrying thing is that censorship will get worse since they’ll try to appeal to investors for the IPO. They’ve already signalled that they are willing to replace protesting mods, they certainly wont hesitate to remove comments critical of reddit. Anyone else more worried about the potential censorship?

Jun 16, 2023 at 1:37pmWeb
Show threadSoullionessJun 16, 2023
I've also seen people saying their deleted posts/comments/and accounts are being been restored.
Show threadParsleyJun 16, 2023
Bots
Show threadRhaedasJun 16, 2023
I've left it behind so what Reddit does doesn't really affect me directly, but I encourage the behavior I'm hearing about for one reason only. To further fan the flames past the simpler 3rd app argument and show what Reddit really was about in the end. People who went back or stayed because it wasn't a big deal to them and the blackout was just whining might think differently when their content and usage gets hurt by the infighting and damage. Let it burn.
Show threadmacracanthorhynchusJun 16, 2023
I think reddit has just continued making more and more moves down their path towards the IPO, and all of those moves together have shown a lot of us that we're not interested in staying on for the rest of the ride. Complicity towards corrupt or powerhungry mods of massive communities with tangible effects on the world (e.g. r/politics), censorship, revenue-focused anti-user actions, ignoring the community, downplaying the value of volunteer mods and threatening to replace them... Yeah, thanks, no. I'm good over here in the fediverse now.
Show threadDigiWolfJun 16, 2023

I’m seeing a lot of worrying trends.

The whole idea of Reddit is changing. It used to be the front page of the internet and that encompassed basically everything. Now it seems like there’s a lot of focus on making it advertiser friendly

Then we see Spez basically spitting in the face of the community. Mocking them, calling the unpaid mods “entitled” and just showcasing that he actively seems to despise the users.

Now we’re seeing Reddit do shady stuff like undelete comments. Destroying any trust the community may have had in the website.

The 3rd party app issue was just the kindling that ignited all the other issues

Show threadpanopticchaosJun 16, 2023
His open anger has been pretty surprising, I feel like the past year has seen more and more of the owner class going totally masks off with anger when the peasants don’t just get in line to follow orders.
Show threadRandomVanGloboiiJun 16, 2023
Apart from Spez and Musk, what other examples are there?
Show threadpanopticchaosJun 16, 2023

Those are probably the highest profile examples.

Everything else is way smaller scale, and often more about the tone than even what is being said. There's a general "how dare anyone push back" or a complete failure to understand what life is like (some of this overlaps with the "ok boomer" stuff).

I'd point to:

  • Martha Stewart's rant about RTO
  • Many many of the "nobody wants to work anymore" rants we've seen
  • The tenor of Starbuck's anti-union actions
  • The communications I've seen from my (large) company and those at friends' (obviously not going to list which)

It's not like I've been keeping a list but those are what come to mind first.

Show threadRandomVanGloboiiJun 16, 2023
Probably it's all linked to the post-virus epiphanies about working conditions that have lead to things like the great resignation, the concept of quiet quitting (which is a bullshit term for me) and in general a bigger conscience of how work affects life
Show threadJasSmithJun 16, 2023
Yes! Very much so. They've become increasingly authoritarian over the years. These days just saying the word "trans" can get one banned from dozens of subreddits and even from the entire website. So far kbin.social has been pretty good, but there are a lot of users who want a safe space and don't like opposing political views. Let's hope either the owner believes in free speech, or I find an instance which does :)
Show threadRottcoddJun 16, 2023

Yes and no.

Broadly, at this point, I couldn't care less what Reddit does. This is my new home.

In the weeks leading up to my move here though, it wasn't so much that I was concerned about the third party apps specifically. I did use one - RIF - and the official app is complete garbage, so it would've impacted me negatively, but it was more than that. And yes - the certain increase in censorship was another issue, but still, it's deeper than that.

Both of those things, and much more, are really just aspects of the process that Cory Doctorow has called enshittification, and that's the thing that drove me away. And if I was still on Reddit, that would be the thing I'd be concerned about.

So it is the case for me that it's not just about the third party apps, and that censorship is also a concern, but really those things, in my estimation, are just signs of a deeper, underlying issue.

Which I no longer have to care about.

Show threadTsunami45chanJun 18, 2023
One of my biggest fear is one day the reddit admins will get rid of downvote buttons in all of the subreddits. Just like how youtube get rid of the downvote button.