FantasticFoxJun 15, 2023

Why lemmy.world should not defederate from beehaw.org.

https://lemmy.world/post/151254

Why lemmy.world should not defederate from beehaw.org. - Lemmy.world

What defederating would mean: - We won’t see beehaw.org [http://beehaw.org] posts/comments on other instances. Pros: - There is less confusion, you can’t respond to a beehaw.org [http://beehaw.org] user, thinking they will be able to see your response when in reality they cannot. Cons: - We won’t be able to see any beehaw.org [http://beehaw.org] comments/posts on other instances, so we will miss out on some comment threads and posts. It could be good to be able to see them and interact with the other users there even though beehaw.org [http://beehaw.org] users won’t see any of our content. Summary Overall, I think it is better not to defederate, but simply unsubscribe from all of their communities (and as we no longer get posts from their instance, with time these will cease to appear on our ‘front page’). beehaw.org [http://beehaw.org] users already can’t see our posts/comments anywhere so it’s not like defederating would change their experience in any way, so it wouldn’t really be retaliation and would just limit the content available to lemmy.world users. What do you think?

Show threadMiddleWeighJun 15, 2023

What happened? Why are they making this move? I think it's a bad idea to start defederating, especially this early.

Edit: How effective or practical, for lemmy.world in the future, would a voting system be for defederating? In case it comes to that for us.

Cause it seems like a very dramatic approach, with only a few people making the decision to drop a ton of content yknow.

Not sure if it's possible even, I know it comes down to our admin, but they seem pretty cool. I dunno just thinking aloud.

Show threadFantasticFoxJun 15, 2023
They said they couldn't deal with the level of abuse and spam that came from lemmy.world users. They have a much more restrictive content policy and smaller, centralised moderation team than most other instances which exacerbated the problem.
Show threadMiddleWeighJun 15, 2023
Tbh, that's kinda hard to believe. I have seen zero malicious activity in my 4 days here. Maybe their standards are just higher than mine, not sure that's a good thing in this case but whatever. Damn that sucks, beehaw had some good stuff.
Show threadFantasticFoxJun 15, 2023
Same, I've found the attitude really positive here. It reminds me of early Reddit in like 2008.
Show threadMiddleWeighJun 15, 2023
Yea I'm having quality discussions, the kind that get zero traction on reddit.
Show threadGONADS125

Exactly. Relevant discussion has continued to decline and be suppressed by stupid memes and puns. Can barely find any relevant discussion in comments anymore.

On reddit, it wouldn't be unusual that someone would talk shit to me for having a thought-out, long reply to someone.

It feels like 60% of the users are pissy teenagers spreading anti-intellectualism and another 30% are bots. Aside from a specific few niche subreddits, I don't miss reddit at all...

Jun 15, 2023 at 12:23pmWeb
Show threadMiddleWeighJun 15, 2023

One sub I was subbed to literally turned into memes, where even the comments were just links to memes and people carrying out full length discussions that way.

I sort of missed the meme culture period. And I always enjoyed writing, so it's pretty nice here.

I went and checked reddit for first time today since the 11th and I left right away.