Google is getting a lot worse because of subreddits being private

https://lemmy.ml/post/1271267

Google is getting a lot worse because of subreddits being private - Lemmy

Source [https://i.imgur.com/qXJTFgQ.png] What do you guys think about this? (Wasn’t sure which community to post this in)

I already encountered this a few times while searching for something specific. Even though the protests are understandable it makes it so much harder to find information.
I think it's a major loss considering the SEO garbage results you get nowadays. But the fault is on Reddit for doing this to themselves, don't forget.

Reddit needs to be replaced sooner or later. Unless they stay true to their goal and never have capital screwing the community.

A federated and community based services is the only way to keep useful conversation on the internet forever.

I wish the internet archive took over reddit as just another public service.

At least in Google Chrome, you can add "cache:" to the beginning of the reddit URL to retrieve a cached version of the site. It's worked for most of the reddit links I've needed to access.

eg: >cache:https://reddit.com/r/...

Aah great. I tried a search about oil on the exhaust today and the first google result was a reddit post, but when I went to read it it says private sub. I couldn't find the cache option on Android Chrome so found results on other sites.
Seems unrelated to open source?

I agree, too many communities here keep getting meta discussion about Reddit - and the open community of aspect of Lemmy isn't very organized.

That said...

This sort of change by the community isn't new. One of Twitter's great strengths was that it was an identifiable brand and you could tell someone a username and it was mostly unambiguous.

I remember the days when Usenet archive ran out of money, before Google purchased it back in early 2001: https://www.wired.com/2001/02/google-buys-deja-archive/ - searching Usenet archives was going to be lost.

The irony is that Google is treated as an evil enterprise that only wants your data and yet we all willingly gave Reddit all our data and information while talking about how evil Google is.

I've gone looking for a few solutions to issues and the results were Reddit threads. Thanks for the cache trick, I'll keep that in mind to hopefully continue to avoid Reddit. Ideally we have a better solution in the future that does not result in all our data being held hostage.

I think it's great that the mods still hold some degree of power over so much important data. Leaving everything that a large community has created in the hands of one asshole CEO is a shitty reality of modern times.

I've been linking this text fairly often, but I think that it's worth a read. People might be focusing on the blackout but that's just the "now" - with or without blackouts, Reddit is a ticking bomb bound to eventually explode, and all the information there will be lost when it does.

And the fact that people have been relying on Reddit to look for information shows even deeper issues, not just with Reddit but the internet. Let's see...

  • Google monopoly over the search market. Why would it need to make its product better, if you're still going to use it?
  • Corporations always trying to prevent you from reaching the best result (because it won't lead you to their product), and engaging on an arms race through search engine optimisation.
  • The encroachment of the ad industry into the internet.
  • Governments more often pandering to corporations than defending the best interests of their taxpayers, and the legislation on what's allowed or disallowed on the internet suffering in result of that.
  • Reddit monopoly over discussions. See text above.
  • Don't Contribute Anything Relevant in Web Forums Like Reddit

    Don't Contribute Anything Relevant in Web Forums Like Reddit

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    Google monopoly over the search market.

    Mostly because it's better than other options though. For instance, when I use DDG, lots of boolean handles just don't work. If I look for "cat sweater -dog", I'm going to get nothing but dog sweaters. I find fewer useful, productive results on DDG than I do on Google. Other search engines are often even worse.

    Give Kagi sesrch engine a shot.

    This was an interesting video on the topic from before the blackout. Its definitely a multi layered problem but the blackout is just showing how bad Google and SEO has gotten:

    https://youtu.be/48AOOynnmqU

    What Happened To Google Search?

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