@pivoinebleue I mean… is that really the framing to pursue? I would say his “malevolent intent towards vast categories of his would-be constituents” would be a far more relevant reason for his lack of leader-quality.

I have many friends who don’t like to talk to people and yet whom I’d find reasonable candidates for “if we really gotta have a President then them”.

I wish we could dislike needy, impotent people like DeSantis without trying to turn every little uncomfortable behavior into “the thing! (finally)” for why everyone should now agree to dislike the scum. It’s not just that people who don’t see the scumminess actually just don’t want to see it, but also it ends up with stretching so often and much that there eventually come times where it gets offensive to others. If you are reaching to show someone is bad, you’ll eventually be attacking perfectly fine behaviors.

The malevolent stuff, the actual desire to hurt some people - that should be sufficient to dislike this chud. I don’t care if he ties his shoes in an uncommon manner.