withersailorA San Francisco library is turning off Wi-Fi at night to keep people without housing from using it
SmolderingSaunaPublicly funded but not for the public.
And before anyone makes a comment about the unhoused probably not paying taxes ... neither do any of the children or retirees who use the service every single day of the year.
We've pretty much just abandoned any concept of citizenship or civic responsibility...
CalchargerIt's only getting turned off at night, not completely disallowing them from using it. I don't see what the problem is. I can't go and take out a book at 1am, I shouldn't also be allowed to use their WiFi.
Exactly this. A housed, or unhoused person, can’t use the library 24/7, so why should there be an exception for Wi-Fi at night?
briellebouquetbecause it costs $0 and unhoused people deserve access to education and resources at night same as those who are housed and have their own wifi?
this isnt about the wifi anyway, it's an attempt to chase homeless people out of populated areas bc rich people are scared to be confronted with the human cost of their actions.
you're fucking disgusting. i wish you the worst things.
Not the person you are replying to, but that's really uncalled for. It's a difference of opinion and none of us are in the position of decision making for the San Francisco Public Library.
A better policy would be for the city to provide universal Wi-Fi access across the city, instead of putting the burden on one public entity in one part of the city.
To be fair, several of these responses have been pretty disgusting in their disregard for homeless people. Also, why is it "unhoused" now and not "homeless". Seems like the semantics are something George Carlin would have fun with.
what people call you and how you're referred to affects how you're treated, directly. this is why propaganda works. i'd like to think carlin would understand that fucking around with marginalized groups trying to better their perception and situation is probably not super cool, and that it'd be much more chill to go after the powerful assholes doing the marginalizing. but who knows.
the word homeless has stigma attached thanks to movies, tv, politicians, news. unhoused drops alot of that stigma. removing that stigma is important in the interest of allowing people to feel empathy for those affected rather than fear. i still slip every now and again but the rationale makes sense and i'm trying to do better.
I'm guessing you've never seen the bit where Carlin goes from Shell Shocked -> Battle Fatigued -> Operational Exhaustion -> Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder. The whole thing about changing these terms is it tends to undermine the seriousness of the issues being discussed. And the marginalized people that are effected.
George Carlin Shell Shock
this is my tribute to George Carlin. the teacher teaches. i do not own this video.
it categorically does not undermine the seriousness of what's being discussed. it casts aside stigma and hatred lumped onto groups from the outside and allows people in marginalized groups some degree of agency or choice in how they're named which usually results in more accurate terminology that's adaptive and capable of shifting away from terms and meanings applied by unaffected people in media and politics. these changes also create community and organization in marginalized groups
source: being gay and trans
i haven't seen the bit. but there is literally no evidence that seriousness gets undermined. sure, bigots will use shifts in terminology to mock their targets, but bigots were always going to do bigot shit anyway. again, i'd like to believe that carlin would've seen how things progressed into the 2010s and 2020s and painted targets on the powerful instead of the powerless.
bigots will use shifts in terminology to mock their targets, but bigots were always going to do bigot shit anyway
Yep, exactly how I think.
Changing terminology sucks oxygen out of the room. Sometimes it's important. Often it's not. We end up talking about Latino vs Latin vs Latinx, instead of immigration reform or better esl resources.
ive never felt like that wrt queer terminology. like we can do both at once.
i feel it applies here. we can remove stigma by moving from homeless to unhoused. and we can also push for better treatment for unhoused people in public spaces, more shelters, and ultimately just like, homes. they dont feel exclusive to me i guess is how i feel