Poetry "can take these fragments of our lives [...and...] really conjure something new—not necessarily something whole and complete, but something that's beautiful and something that's empowering and inspiring from these ruins of history and migration.

Such a beautiful conversation with Craig Santos Perez in Episode 8 of A Wild and Beautiful World.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/a-wild-and-beautiful-world/id1675694408?i=1000616041297