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I really want to like Lemmy

https://lemmy.zip/post/7613

I really want to like Lemmy - Lemmy.zip

I really want to like lemmy, but it’s difficult. I’m new to all this fediverse thingy, and I might just have old habits and perceptions how things should work but… I keep seeing the same posts more than once, iOS experience is not that good really, sometimes I see dead posts from 2 years ago for some reason, despite having subscribed to like 30 communities there aren’t that many new posts to read. Part of it probably that subreddits had millions of people so a lot of posts every minute, but it still feels underwhelming. It’s not as doomscrolly. Maybe I should find something else to waste my time on haha What is your experience with lemmy? Maybe I just do things wrong. Let me know

milkytoast Jun 13, 2023

i mean so far, I'm enjoying it. sure, the community isn't as large, but that's mostly a good thing. on reddit, if i made a post, it would be like a 25% chance to get hundreds of comments, and a 75% chance to get none. here, I've gotten a few, high quality responses on every question post I've made. i do miss the "auto hide read posts" feature, but maybe that'll get added some day

Briongloid Jun 13, 2023

Fediverse currently reminds me of Reddit from 10 years ago in frequency of content. There is something nice about not being in the rat race, less toxicity.

milkytoast Jun 13, 2023

yeah it's nice knowing that someone is gonna see my comment instead of it getting lost amongst hundreds. feels a lot more like a community that way

Briongloid Jun 13, 2023

It's amazing how many Reddit comments just aren't seen, no wonder so many people end up just lurking.

I had 150k+ karma and most of my comments would go unnoticed.

milkytoast Jun 14, 2023

150k? damn

netburnr Jun 14, 2023

I saw your comment :)

adj16 Jun 13, 2023

You can hide read posts here! In the web app settings for your profile:

adriator Jun 13, 2023

Is there a way to stop the endless loading of posts on the website? Because every time I try to click a post, it moves down because a new post loaded, and this happens every ten seconds, constantly.

adj16 Jun 13, 2023

I’ve heard that one is just a bug. Hopefully they’re working on it. Mlem seems to have it handled, but it does crash a lot, and it’s frustrating to lose your scroll progress. I think we just have to wait it out in these early days 😵‍💫

atp2112 Jun 13, 2023

I also don't seem to have that problem with Jerboa.

TheMinions Jun 13, 2023

I believe it’s specifically an issue with the web client. The apps don’t seem to have that problem.

danc4498 Jun 13, 2023

This is good to hear. Hopefully they can work out their aggregation on the main page too.

IUsedTo Jun 13, 2023

They've also fixed the problem on Jebora

CosmicSploogeDrizzle Jun 13, 2023

It's a bug that wasnt an issue when the community was smaller. Last I heard they will replace it with a refresh icon that pops up at the top when new posts are available.

Quartz Jun 13, 2023

Oh thank God is a bug, I really thought it was a feature of the site.

instamat Jun 13, 2023

Thank jeebus. I was getting all fussy thinking it was a me/my phone/my browser problem.

B4tid0 Jun 13, 2023

Oh dude! MASSIVE THANKS!

Illegal_Seafood Jun 13, 2023

This is incredibly helpful! Thank you so much!

adj16 Jun 13, 2023

😊

psilves1 Jun 13, 2023

Incredible

Acronychal Jun 13, 2023

What is considered "read"? Something you scroll past or a post that you open?

adj16 Jun 13, 2023

I’d assume a post that you open, but I haven’t really tested it out much yet. If I figure it out I’ll update you here

adj16 Jun 13, 2023

Ok, I just tested it out. It’s any post that you upvote, downvote, or open the comments for. Expanding an image is not enough.

orbit Jun 13, 2023

The reality is that there was/is no reddit alternative and right now we're all in this transitory phase where we're all looking for a new home. We'll all just have to wait for the dust to settle. Lemmy isn't perfect but is improving and additionally other alternatives like kbin and tildes are in the works.

To your larger point, much of what you're feeling is the abrupt break in habits. I've been using the gap to develop more positives ones, and it's been great.

Oslypsis Jun 13, 2023

A thought came to my mind when reading your comment.

Instead of finding a new home, let's make lemmy our new home. Let's try to populate lemmy more, get its activity up, and post more than we would've on reddit (since we have less users, we would need more posts per user), so it can stand a chance at being a reddit competitor.

rskn Jun 13, 2023

This is the sentiment I've been rolling with. I normally don't post often, but since the move I've created an instance and posted more than ever.

We have to make what we want. once we have enough content for people to be interested, the users and community will come.

redditrefugee Jun 13, 2023

I've been told my handle should work on all the lemmys but so far it only works on lemmy.one. I tried logging in with this at lemmy.world and beehaw and it didn't work. I tried creating a new login and both of those and it also didn't work. I want to like it but I'm confused and frustrated. I'll give it some time and see where the dust settles as you said. Call me old fashioned though but I just don't think shitposting on a forum should be so damn complicated.

Z_ford_prefect Jun 13, 2023

You don't need to create multiple Lemmy accounts. You can search for and find and join subs from lemmy.world on your Lemmy.one account. it's not instantly intuitive coming from Reddit, but once you make the connection to the other subs on different instances its established for you

ewe Jun 13, 2023

Yeah, I try to share this to help people get it...

GUIDE:

don't go to a community on the server that it's on (e.g. https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy) [NO login]
do go to a community on the server you're on (e.g. https://lemmy.one/c/[email protected]) [YES login!]

everything else works the same using the instance-to-instance federation, but only as long as you use YOUR lemmy instance, not the one that the Community lives on.

MokaRoca Jun 13, 2023

Thank you, it makes so much more sense to me now.

rigo Jun 13, 2023

Are you on mobile or are you using desktop? The mobile app is definitely still in development so it's missing a lot of those QOL things that you are missing.

For me it's been helpful to use that fediverse search tool, and copy and paste it into the search. Seems to work better on desktop. I've got a decent feed going today, but it's definitely a work in progress.

kessleragain Jun 13, 2023

You’re successfully doing it right now, commenting on a post from Lemmy.ml. You don’t need to log in to other instances, like Beehaw, to comment.

WeirdGoesPro Jun 13, 2023

It will get better quickly—there are people working around the clock on apps and improvements right now. This isn’t like your normal social media site where they can use seed money and advertising to buy the best infrastructure right off the bat. This is a grassroots effort to make something that can evolve into a unique and independent service.

If we all stick it out with alternative options like this right now, we will be looking at a much freer future for online communication later. If we get annoyed and go crawling back to the capitalist overlords at FB/Twitter/Reddit, then we give them everything they wanted in the first place, and the internet will take one more step towards being a walled garden casino of ideas.

mcmxci Jun 13, 2023

Your handle only works on the instance you signed up on (lemmy.one).You can view communities from all other federated instances (lemmy.ml,etc) from your home instance (again, lemmy.one). You shouldn’t be trying to sign into other instances with your handle

AeroX Jun 13, 2023

You should never have to go to the actual websites for the other instances. Just like email, you wouldn’t expect to be able to use your Gmail account to log into Yahoo, right? Use lemmy.one as your homepage and browse everything from there. From there, you can use the Communities section to search/browse communities hosted on any instance, including Beehaw and lemmy.world.

PotatoFam78 Jun 13, 2023

Can you tell me how to make a new comment? So far, it's just allowing me to reply to others but no option to make one new...

Solivine Jun 13, 2023

There's a speech bubble icon on the bottom of the post for me, using the jerboa app for android :)

New_account Jun 13, 2023

Agree that it shouldn't be so complicated. I see that as a major flaw of the platform that will curtail adoption, but who knows, maybe one will win out over the others?

In any case, my understanding is that you can't log into the other instances with your username from lemmy.one, but you can read posts and interact with communities on different lemmy sites. For instance, I'm commenting from lemmy.world on a post you made on lemmy.one, but we can both read each other's comments.

Heinz Skunk (Lemmy)Jun 13, 2023

Your handle won’t let you login on other instances but you can follow communities on other instances from the instance you signed up for.

forvirretfugl Jun 13, 2023

That surprised me a bit when I first used Mastodon. "Wait? Why can't I log in? I just want to follow this person! Oh, right, have to go to my original server and do it from there". New to Lemmy, but finding and following other communities feels much easier than on Mastodon.

mintberrycrunch Jun 14, 2023

Yeah. I think it needs to be a little bit more intuitive or easier if it’s all really going to catch on.

FlaxPicker Jun 13, 2023

Im talking to you from a lemmy.world account right now. Whatever instance you chose to create your account with is the website you need to go to each time you login. From there, you will still have access to search comment etc with any other community through your current instance.

jeansburger Jun 13, 2023

Your handle does work for all of the various Lemmy servers. But to access them it's like your email, you wouldn't log in to your Gmail account from Yahoo. Yahoo has no idea what your Gmail username and password is. So how can it let you in? And like email because both servers speak the same protocol you can interact with other users on other servers just like if you had their email address.

In your case lemmy.one is your email server so to speak. You can access any other Lemmy community or set of communities on another lemmy server by searching directly for their address on your home server or if someone else has interacted with another server already that server's communities will show up in your home server's All list and you can see those posts there and interact with them as if they were local to your home server.

_finger_Jun 14, 2023

I’m home :)

sorrybookbroke Jun 13, 2023

Yeah, that's been my experiance too. The platform only has about 12,000 active users on it. Mastadon, in comparison, has 1.2 million active daily users.it's slot more than previously, but still nothing in the grand scheme of things. More people are coming in though and it is still growing but at this rate, what I believe to be 3,000 new active users in a day, it'll take a bit.

bdonvr Jun 13, 2023

There's rough edges to be sure but the community seems pretty good and the devs seem like they're working hard.

Right now I'm seeing less time spent endlessly scrolling as more of a feature than a bug lmao, need to break that habit anyway

Zeerooth Jun 13, 2023

What I'd recommend in your case is sorting the posts by "hot" instead of "active" which is the default setting. Posts get up the active sorting whenever somebody comments on them or upvotes (I think?), even if they are very old, whereas hot should only show you new and currently popular posts. You'll still see the post that you've already seen and a setting for that is clearly missing, but it should still be an improvement.

FartSmarter Jun 13, 2023

Yeah, I think having active as the default sorting is not a good idea. It can be confusing to new users

SanguinePar Jun 13, 2023

It's tricky at times, but I'm really liking it after a few days. It's a bit chaotic but in a fun way I think.

If you haven't seen it yet, check out https://browse.feddit.de for a way to search for more communities

Hope you start to enjoy it more :-)

Hazen Jun 13, 2023

I really just want a good r/all functionality.

SanguinePar Jun 13, 2023

If you filter to All and sort by Active does that not more or less do the job? I never really used /r/All so I'm maybe not the best judge.

Azzu Jun 13, 2023

As someone who used /r/all before, what you say is exactly the same as I'm used to.

SanguinePar Jun 13, 2023

Ah, nice one, thanks :-)

Solivine Jun 13, 2023

Hot doesn't update often enough for me, do you know how to fix that?

Azzu Jun 14, 2023

I've no idea why that would be or what exactly "often enough" means for you - hot has mostly 8-16h old posts, and if I start scrolling down a bit I even start to see 15 minute old posts. Which is probably not how it should be, but 15 minutes certainly seems "often enough".

I also see 2 year old posts on hot for some reason, so yeah, it's definitely not perfect, but reddit had more than a decade to get it right, I'm sure lemmy will get better.

Tylith Jun 13, 2023

Is there a way to stop everything from constantly updating/moving around once I've loaded the page?

SanguinePar Jun 13, 2023

I don't think so, seen a lot of people talking about that. I tend to stay in Subscribed/New, so it's not a thing I see often, but I know what you mean.

I think maybe developers are working on it, but not sure tbh.

Tylith Jun 13, 2023

Oh well, thanks for your response. I'm sure it will get sorted eventually.

SanguinePar Jun 13, 2023

Yeah, hope so.

Zerlyna Jun 13, 2023

I got the beta Mlem for iPhone. I’m liking it better than the mobile web. For two days it seems to be growing ok. I don’t miss the ads every other post for sure! (Didn’t have on Apollo either)