I Hope Rexxitors Tone Down the Low-Hanging Comment Chains on Lemmy.

https://lemmy.fmhy.ml/post/26710

I Hope Rexxitors Tone Down the Low-Hanging Comment Chains on Lemmy. - FMHY

I loved Reddit for what it is, but nothing made me back out of a post faster than seeing the top 3 parent threads as a regurgitation of the same inside jokes, pun-chains, and so on.

Don't worry! We'll develop our own new inside jokes to repeat and nauseum!
Definitely! We have our own social network, with baccarat and masseuses!
All lemmings, take one step off the cliff!
Oh no. I was hoping to not have to see another 'bacons at midnight' type of post within my lifetime.
yeah but it's charming when we do it

This!!!1111one

God that felt awful to type

first new inside joke: and nauseam 💀

And my ax!

Couldn't help it, sorry

And I believe you have my stapler
Agreed, it's gonna get so annoying hearing these jokes and nauseam though.
…With blackjack and hookers!
So much this 1!1!1!
There's a noticeable generation gap between people who use 1!1!1! and the ones who would say sO MuCh tHiS! I'm not sure when it happened but I'm gonna guess you are about 35?
I am 34 and I believe the both have their own purposes.
I will be very very sad if I'm still commenting this kind of shit on a random corner of the internet at the age of 35
I'm 36 and shitposting is the best part of my day! You're never too old for some things.
It's such a weird thing for me too. You are too old for eating cake, doing funny noises, comment x or y. The fuck I'm too old for anything.
There seems to be a weird age in between teen and late 20s where you wanna be older than you are and take stuff seriously, then your "childhood" is over by 30 and you realize life is kind of a joke anyway so why not just be a child till death. I'm 33 and I'm with you. If I can't be entertained by life, ain't no point living.
Lol. I'm 33, and I haven't seen that in a while. I remember using it on AIM or smth lol
Oh man... but they forgot 11!!11!1!0ne. Why does this remind me of arfenhouse? Anyway the ones and exclamations are too symmetrical. I sense a fake.

~~you have my updoot~~

I jest. Ultimately without some sort of mechanic that disincentivizes noisy, low-effort joke comments there's not going to be some sort of magical cultural shift. I'm just arriving, but from what I'm seeing Lemmy doesn't have any sort of design that will skew comments towards actual discussion and away from jokes/noise in any meaningful way.

Yeah, I was thinking of having some sort of feature that pre-builds thread topics in a post (humor, discussion, cross-searching) where users can put there comments in depending on what it is they're going for.
I'm also eyeballing Tildes as a Reddit alternative, and their dev has an interesting approach to increasing signal-to-noise ratio. They don't have downvotes, but they have labels that affect how comments are sorted, with the joke and noise labels moving comments down in the sort by a pretty significant amount.
Commenting on Tildes

Tildes Docs
That sounds like it could work pretty well, you could even just add it on to other comment sort styles. You don't need to necessarily remove downvotes if you really want them in specific instances.

Tildes developed has openly said they don’t intend for it be a replacement for reddit, and that kinda is what makes me come here instead.

If they aren’t open to the idea, it will never happen.

Not saying they should open the floodgates either, it’s mainly that the use cases and end goal for Tildes vs Lemmy are completely different

Doesn't Slashdot kind of work like that?
This comment has been modded +1 (Informative).
The way it is right now, we don't have total "karma", which I imagine helps to at least suppress the purely karma-farming spam. That said, there's no real reason to think it won't be added here eventually.
I hope it doesn’t, better without karma, it shouldn’t be competitive really
Never really got the point of Karma to begin with. All it really does is measure how well you match the tone of any particular echo chamber.
If I recall, a minimum karma was used by some mod bots as a gatekeep of sorts on more official subreddits. But even then I don't think it was more than to deter very new accounts.

Deterring very new accounts is still a useful thing to do.

A lot of posts on my country's COVID sub were removed by the bot with an account too new message, and it was only set to about one week. It doesn't really slow down new users but it cuts off a lot of spam bots.

Although lately on reddit I've been seeing a lot of repost bots, and it seems their strategy as of late is to make a whole bunch of accounts at once, then sit on them for a few months before they start using them for doing their spamming/reposting. So the minimum account age was easily being circumvented.
Just reddits variation of post count from older forums
that's really smart -- but at the same time i'm horribly curious

I wonder if this will come down to client apps (though “native” instance-level integration would be nice).

Mlem currently has keyword filters but it would be nice to filter comments out that equal a filter.

For example, I can’t stand comments that just say “this” so in theory I would set a filter for any comment that’s just equal to “this” right? But then I’d be filtering out quite a lot of “valid” comments.

But you could filter out comments containing only "this" or variations with exclamations points and such
I am still learning Lemmy, but I agree with you from what I am seeing. There is no “karma farming” here right? So the motivation is mostly people who want to engage?

There's no total karma for a user yet, yes. So the perverse incentive to make number go up at all costs isn't quite as wild as it is in Reddit.

As I wander around Lemmy more I'm also noticing that there's a lot of opportunity for instances to have their own subcultures, which goes against the "It doesn't matter which Lemmy instance you use" advice I've seen in a couple places. It definitely seems prudent to choose an instance that has an admin team and/or a theme you like, because instance-local content is going to be the easiest to find. The instance I chose is decently small and chill, but I've seen some other instances with a big focus on memes. To each their own!

I agree with you to an extent, but I have noticed on my instance it is heavily populated with outside instances so hopefully as this grows that subculture part will not be as much of a concern and more a fun “extra bonus” if you will of your favored instance and we can still unite under our favorite “common communities."
Agreed. I think for now it's up to each community owner to set the expectations for their community and for the mods to enforce it. And so like Twitter...the quality of your feed will be dictated by whom you follow or in Lemmy's case which communities you join.
Old habits die hard. ;) The way the website is formatted generally seems to discourage it.
This 🤣🤣🤣
Edit: Thanks for the gold, kind stranger!!!
I'm waiting for people to start posting the old reddit silver pic with an L
I would support a general community punishment for excessive punnery.
A punishment you say?
Don't mind me, I am just waiting in the wings to "Choose someone's wife"
Google en passant, I'm an actual zombie
New response just dropped, call an exorcist
Holy hell
just GTFO of reddit, will never return
Hey Google, I'm a pissant.

this tbh 😩 edit: holy hell

For real though , idk if I see it happening. If the culture of "this" comments comes with, all we have against it is an opposing culture of trying to keep comments high-quality. It just depends on what kind of redditors take the effort to migrate