SibboWow, didn't know the people making Lemmy were that bad and deny genocides. But I also don't have time to read and understand all the old posts, and I have no idea who the people are who are talking abotu this, so it is incredibly hard to say if it is trustworthy or not. Would be interesting to get a statement from the lemmy developers today about this, to see what they think about the uighur thing and north korea today.
CleoTheWizardI'm not about to defend their opinions but to me, I don't see how they matter. It sucks that I wouldn't find the devs to be ethical in that case, but I care far more about this federated platform. As long as they keep it to their own instance and keep developing an open platform for others, I don't know that it's relevant.
KameloI completely agree with this, the entire point of federated services is if you don't want to share the website with edgy internet socialists you just don't join one that ends in .ml. It's not like only the best people in the world use Reddit...
Where's the actual questionable content? All I could find was a Mastodon thread claiming the devs have shitty opinions without any links to any actual people raising these opinions. The best I can do is guess they are referring to lemmygrad, which indeed looks like a brain dead shit hole of insanity, but how does that relate to the developers again? A bit more clear-cut presentation would be greatly beneficial, as this level of discussion is FUD as best.
croobatDitto, I see people everywhere but not actual evidence from the developers. Best I could find was some questionable essays in the main dev's Github, but so what? If I buy clothes through Shein now I am some child labor apologist? If we keep rejecting people with good ideas for having shitty opinions we will die waiting.
Link to the said essays, so it's clear what we're dealing with here: https://github.com/dessalines/essays
Ok, so the guy likes his communism. I do find it weird (and a bit stupid), but he can't control the instances he hasn't started, and doesn't directly benefit from them. So it's very hard to see the problem here.
Yeah, I think people may be overreacting a bit, the whole point of federated social media (and FOSS software), is that nobody really owns anything. This is not like if the CEO of some company did shady business or something, personally I couldn't care less.
mrmanagerIndeed.
My concern is that he will use his admin powers in relevant subs ([email protected]) to suppress relevant topics there. I don’t think that requires forking in itself, but might justify defederation to help alternative groups grow.
I'm as in the dark as you are, but I think part of the complaint is that
1 Lemmy.ml still federates with lemmygrad.
I see, this could be a concern regarding the moderation policy of Lemmy.ml. However, if there is some unhinged upfuckery, unlike in the case of Reddit, we don't have to migrate to a completely new service, just to another instance.
I feel like it's completely overblown and it's just silly. Why can't we let these poeple have opinions different from our own?
The enemies of lemmy are trying to slander the devs with ridiculous claims. They will always claim genocide because they want to associate everything with nazis and the holocaust. It's an old tactic.
Sebastian LauwersAre you implying that a piece of software has “ennemies”?
Well yeah, Lemmy has direct competitors