arclightLinux distro experiment time! I'm currently using Linux Mint and am fairly happy with it. Regardless, I got a new SSD and want to put something different on my aging ThinkPad. Should it be:
Vanilla Debian
Arch Linux
Something else
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packy@packy C-shell gives me hives, but I did consider one of the BSDs because this is meant as an experiment, so no, you're totally not out of line weighing in :)
Matt@greppy @arclight So, the choice of shells isn't the reason to use a Linux over a BSD: it's the underlying system differences. For example, if you use
/proc, you want to stay with a Linux. In my case, I want all the benefits of native ZFS, and for quite a while that meant using FreeBSD. But I was a Linux user back in the 90s, and the switch to FreeBSD was completely painless because I didn't need any of the Linux-specific stuff.
Thomas Steen Rasmussen@tykling @arclight @greppy Really? I seriously don't recall taking any steps to install bash or set it as my default shell: it was just there.
Even if my memory is faulty and I did need to do something, the barrier to installing bash was so low it didn't even occur to me that I was doing something special.
Even if my memory is faulty and I did need to do something, the barrier to installing bash was so low it didn't even occur to me that I was doing something special.
@tykling @arclight @greppy Huh. You are correct: according to https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/bsdinstall/ bash *isn't* in the default shells. But it's trivial to install the system, log in as root, run
Really, "I don't like the C-shell and its the default" should not be a barrier preventing someone from using #FreeBSD. It is so trivial to replace csh as the default that it should never be part of someone's consideration when they're thinking about whether to use a unix-like operating system.
pkg install bash to install bash and then run chsh -s /usr/local/bin/bash to make it the default shell. (instructions for this can be found in https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/basics/#shells )Really, "I don't like the C-shell and its the default" should not be a barrier preventing someone from using #FreeBSD. It is so trivial to replace csh as the default that it should never be part of someone's consideration when they're thinking about whether to use a unix-like operating system.
Anubhav@tykling "/bin/sh" became the default shell even for "root" in #FreeBSD 14 time line (will be widely available whenever 14-RELEASE is released); notice: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current/2021-September/000648.html commit: https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=d410b585b6f00a26c2de7724d6576a3ea7d548b7
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