Ben 🏳️🌈the temptation to fuck around and install IOS 17 is trying to overwhelm my better judgement to not find out.
John@Ben I succumb every year, already have
@marcar how have you found it? stable enough or being a little twitchy?
@Ben Surprisingly stable, but that could be famous last words from me. I’ve found that strangely the first beta for me normally seem stable and then it usually goes downhill from there for a few releases.
David@Ben I’ve been thinking the same about Sonoma, in order to try out the game putting toolkit. But my MBP is my daily driver for work.
@david crap I hadn't considered Sonoma
@david how are you finding it??
@Ben To be fair, I only installed it to try out the Game Porting Toolkit and get Valheim working on my laptop - which it does, although the mouse is a big laggy, but frame rates are surprisingly good.
The USB-C connected nVME drive is a bit slow, which doesn't help. The OS is, in my limited playing with it, surprisingly stable for an Apple Beta.
Jerry Gonzalez 
@Ben iPhone 14 Pro here. Has been running well for me so far. Sure there are visual glitches every so often, but nothing that I can quickly fix and get back to being productive.
@JerryGonzalez I'm super tempted but I might give it a few more weeks
James85260@Ben patience, my boy, patience.
@James85260 that’ll never happen 😁