Lemmy.ml and beehaw.org getting hammered with traffic because of spez ama

https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/75773

Lemmy.ml and beehaw.org getting hammered with traffic because of spez ama - Blåhaj Lemmy

Both were down for me before, they seem to be up right now but just made this account on Lemmy.blahaj.zone (Henry is the name of my actual blahaj lol). It’s probably because of the traffic influx from reddit refugees from the absolutely disastrous spez ama (where he doubles down on everything and doesn’t apologize at all). Allegedly they’re trying to suppress Lemmy mentions but I guess it’s not working well enough lol A good problem to have although long term we’re going to have to figure out how to deal with these spikes in traffic.

kbin.social is also suffering
sorry it just has the best UI out of the one's i've tried, i didn't mean to kill it v-v
We're glad to have ya, regardless!
I agree, the integration of microblogs + threads is brilliant and I hope people keep using it.
Yes, it was working ok before the AMA, now it's feeling sluggish. I guess is expected considering the amount of people coming over. New users are all welcome, and we're glad to have you.
Hmm I fully understand why, but every page on most instances (I've been on a few different ones) is taking a while to load (nowhere near as long as the billion dollar website Reddit takes to load their "official" website though, lol.)
Yeah just made a kbin (I have a lemmy too, but found I liked kbin's ui more) and it's been a bit slow. I figure it's cause the ama went so badly!
Aha This explains why things have been slow or wonky at times
i was scared my account got shut down or something, i’m relieved to hear it’s just a lot of traffic.

It'll balance out as more instances start up. I also joined blahaj. The flurry of activity gives me some vague sense of hope that most of the communities I followed on reddit will be able to restart on Lemmy.

Its almost too late, ive seen posts on several subs saying they're shutting down permanently due to the effective permanent removal of 3rd party mod tools and the misery of the 1st party apps. Reddit could be looking at a mass exodus a-la-digg. It remains to be seen how the fediverse will handle the mass influx of former redditors. If Spez has any shred of decency left he'd apologize profusely and then beg the mods who are leaving to stay. Knowing capitalists, he absolutely will not.

I joined vlemmy.net .. I think it said there was one other user when I joined lol. No idea what I'm doing but so far it seems like I can see all the content from other instances as well.
Yep! The idea behind federation is that there are a bunch of smaller instances that can all talk to each other rather than one big central authority like with Facebook or Reddit!
Nah, read the AMA. He and Reddit (the company) in general are doubling down. I was hoping it was just anchoring (where the initial price for something is so ridiculously high, any other offer even if it's more than you should pay seems reasonable). But from his comments, and the Devs' responses, it's clear it's basically just a way to kill the API totally for users, I guess the only possible remaining use for the API is AI training. Tech companies would probably pay that much because it genuinely is worth it to them.

Yeah, I saw the comment he made about the Apollo developer. He's lying plainly, without even trying to refute any claims made against him and his team. He really believes the company can stand to float on a more mainstream userbase. I doubt it honestly. More likely it will start a slow trend downwards as the mods are mostly leaving, so the site will have to deal with massive site wide content moderation and community management issues. He doesn't care. Maybe he's already checked out and he plans to step aside once this transitory phase is over.

The idea that reddit can survive purely on a mainstream userbase is ludicrous anyway, the entire point of the website has always been its many niche communities. Its ecosystem of interconnecting and interacting user groups. Thats never going to be a big sell to pure social media oriented users, who already have Instagram and TikTok to fulfill their algorithm needs. So financially I have no idea how they plan to survive in the long term.

Idk how they can fundamentally misunderstand this (and have been for years). They haven't cared about mods for years, their official app is complete trash. Reddit was always supposed to be an alternative to twitter/Facebook/Instagram/tiktok, not a competitor. Like take the video player for example. Hardly even works most of the time, and is a clear tiktok clone. Why are they doing that? Tiktok and Reddit could not be more different apps. They can pay mods, Reddit can't or won't. I expect soon if they survive this they'll move towards in house moderation.
Good news overall
yeah, that ama convinced me it was time to take the plunge. just created this account, first comment on lemmy lol
Hell yes, welcome!
same, I created a kbin account. this is my first comment 👋
Welcome to kbin! I’ve been here about a week and the community and content is great. I hope you like it too, great choice!
welcome to kbin!
Same here, this is also my first kbin comment.
Welcome to the fediverse! Have fun exploring all it has to offer!

first comment on kbin

From [email protected]

Lol. There's gonna be a lot of heads exploding when people realize what the fediverse is and how it works.

I don't even understand, myself. ATM I have one kbin account and a few Lemmy accounts. Not sure if there is an advantage to having an account on a kbin instance vs a Lemmy instance or anything??

At the moment, Jerboa seems like the best way to browse (although nowhere near as polished as many of the bigger Reddit apps obviously), so it seems pike picking a compatible instance with that works best right now. Still, it's all a bit overwhelming!

Just wrote a big post about Lemmy Vs kbin's, so I don't have to write it twice :)) https://kbin.social/m/[email protected]/t/9489/-/comment/40195
I have no clue how to view that link on my home instance
Maybe this link works better? https://sh.itjust.works/comment/33194
yes!, i need to learn how theese links work!
sadly thats sometimes a little difficult. Entering the link in the search only works if its the link from the original instance. One can geht this link by following the colerfull rainbow icon under the post (in web view).

Basically the main difference is who your admin team is. So that means different moderation styles, allowing NSFW or not, allowing downvotes, controlling which communities get made (or not), etc.

You can create communities on your home instance if your admins allow it (Lemmy.ml and Kbin do, Beehaw does not). But you have to make an account on an instance to create a community there.

It's totally reasonable to jump between instances until you find one you like.

I'm on beehaw right now and didn't realize creating communities was disabled. Very interesting. Thanks!
Remember folks, even if you do or don’t like Lemmy it is an alternative that appreciates the increased interest.

It also has something Reddit has been losing. Which is the small town feel. More people now even migrate to discord from Reddit. There was a time when on Reddit I felt like real people interacted. Now it all feels astroturfed.

Also, if they are suppressing mentions via Reddit just mention it on discord

I also got a couple of "you broke reddit" pages trying to follow the post. So even reddit servers couldn't keep up with how made people are. And this is on a Friday, traditionally the day to do things you do not want noticed.

They never had to do the AMA in the first place. It's baffling really, there were absolutely ZERO good outcomes for Reddit here.

Considering his several passive aggressive statements about Apollo over the course of the AMA, and the sheer irrationality for him to do it at all and especially to double down, I can only assume this is all fueled by egotistical rage.

I honestly find the constant digs at Apollo developer baffling. Spez is clearly looking for a scapegoat, but after the second or third time Christian showed the receipts, you'd think he'd find another target...

Instead he is digging himself and reddit deeper and deeper into that hole - seems ego really is a hell of a drug.

Christian did an amazing job coving his butt.
It is very odd behavior, I wouldn't be surprised if he steps down and goes to rehab or something. The way he has been acting, it really seems like something more is going on with him.

I'm wondering the same.

I mean, anyone with a bit of sense knew beforehand the AMA would have been a disaster, it actually turned out to be even worse than many people imagined.

At first I thought he wanted to do it anyway to play victim, something like "see?? I wanted to talk they didn't listen!"

But seeing how utterly stupid his answer were, I couldn't make any sense of it, you're probably right, "egotistical rage" is the only logical answer at this point.

I joined during the general influx so I don't have a good gauge but how much has lemmy grown since this whole debacle? How many users were here like a month ago?
like around 500 online users, today is 2300
Also come to reddthat.com if you need another instance option.
Reddthat - A general Lemmy instance prioritising thoughtful communication and enjoyable communities. No email required and New communities always welcome!

Amouranth, the Kick streamer, is allegedly brewing beer with her vaginal yeast. It’s an obvious publicity stunt to squeeze more money from her impressionable and “thirsty” audience. Gross-factor aside, is this even possible? Is it analogous to brewer’s yeast? Would this cause undesirable side effects or introduce undesirable compounds?

I haven't noticed at all, because I follow communities on lemmy.ml and beehaw.org from my own instance. I had this experience when Mastodon.social kept going down during major Twitter exodus phases. Federation is awesome.
Can you tell me more about the pros and cons of running your own instance? Why did you choose to do that? I'm new at this so I'm very intrigued.

Of course. Here's a quick one:

Pros:

  • You don't depend on anyone else's funds or time
  • Always available and snappy no matter how busy some parts of the Fediverse get
  • You choose who to federate with. Want to talk to both puppy-lovers and puppy-haters? No problem.
  • It's a social media account you really, in every sense of the word, own. Nobody can take it away from you. The lemmy.ml admins could accept the billions* they're surely being offered right now for their instance, but my account is still mine.

Cons:

  • Hosting costs some money, knowledge, and time.
  • Unless you subscribe to specific communities (or people, in the cast of Mastodon) those posts will never reach your server. So you don't really have a "Federated" timeline

*I'm joking about the billions. Probably.

Thanks for that response. Is there an easy way to start an instance?
Is it in the ballpark of "easy if you're a techie and experienced with Linux" to use an old PC as a server instead of paying to host it?

The short answer: yes.

The long answer: Yes, but...

If this is your home network, you're providing attackers with an entry point into your network. You're also giving yourself an avenue to get DDOS'd etc. You'd have to open ports and get that set up - or deal with a reverse proxy or whatever.

But generally it's as easy as running a Docker container and pointing a domain at your IP.

And, of course, ensuring that your IP provider doesn’t run behind a Client-Grade Network Address Translator (CG-NAT). Otherwise, you’re better off renting a Virtual Private Server (VPS) or if you’re particularly strapped of money and have a lot of patience, you can bridge it with your home server using a Virtual Private Network (VPS) and a good amount of scripting to remap the ports accordingly.
Might be my vacation project then. But I probably won't use it seriously if I'm not sure I can keep it decently secured.

Unless you subscribe to specific communities (or people, in the cast of Mastodon) those posts will never reach your server. So you don’t really have a “Federated” timeline

This seems like a pretty serious flaw in the federation protocol. Hope it's fixed at some point.

The "subscribe & push" model is practically fundamental to ActivityPub. There's pros and cons to this design, but ultimately I think it's confusing and cumbersome for users..

While true, this only affects people who are hosting and running their own instance. And if they're doing that, it isn't that big of a deal.

Users that might struggle with the concepts are probably joining larger instances that are already federated, so the problem is solved as soon as they find the "All" button.

At least he was honest enough to say that the sudden massive turnaround in their attitude to API pricing was their realisation they had the AI bros over a barrel.

Given how much of the content used in the existing models has been shown to have been scraped in violation of usage licences and copyright, anyone who is serious about developing new models is going to be scrabbling desperately to get access to good data sets.

The Reddit board now realise that charging through the nose for access to their API might generate them more money than all those annoying users ever have.

reporting for duty to join the revolution. thank you for hosting us!!
I’m really curious to see how this will work out. Also very curious about being kinda at a start of the build up of a community. I know it’s not from “scratch”, but it’s still kinda exciting