Gaywallet (they/it)Any of y'all have a NAS? What's your setup?
forkI don't know if I can claim a spare hard drive hooked up to a Raspberry Pi as a NAS, but it's what I have - and it works quite well for my single-user use case.
Sounds like a NAS to me!
That's what I have too, and I also use it for torrenting. I put a dlna server on it, and works really well with my roku tv
I have a synology NAS, two bays with 4TB in raid.
Mostly used for Plex (Netflix alternative and for music streaming) but also find these useful:
Vaultwarden (password manager) Virtual machine (for torrenting) Sonarr (torrent indexer) Radarr (torrent indexer) Synology Photos (photo backup) Synology Drive (personal cloud storage) Joplin (notebook)
Probably some other stuff as well. I highly recommend mariushosting.com if you have or end up using a synology NAS. Amazing tutorials for just about anything.
lady_mongrelThis is pretty much my set up. I wish I could show myself 10 years ago who was using and external drive and xbmc how cool of a set up I would eventually have, and also to tell them to back their damn media up!
I used a Rasberry Pi 4 to make a pi-hole ad blocker. I then learned you could just plug in a harddrive to it (USB) to make a very simple NAS. I bought an SSD to USB case/adapter, and with basic tutorials online I now have a network drive. To reiterate, I have no programming skills. Both the pi-hole and now the NAS was from copy-paste command line walkthroughs.
It's not a fancy "NAS" as far as redundancy or backup, but now all 4 of the gaming PCs (wife and kids have their own) can connect to the same drive for sharing stuff. I also use it to manually back up all our photos/videos. I love it.
I don't have a NAS yet, but I've been interested in one as well as PiHole for a bit. I have 2 Raspberry Pi 3b+ currently and have muddled my way through setting up Octopi for a 3D printer on one and setting up ADSB plane tracking on the other. Mostly copy-paste commands as you did on both of them using PuTTY. If I ever get a Pi 4, I'd be interested in doing what you did with yours. Any resource suggestions?
https://www.pcmag.com/how-to/how-to-turn-a-raspberry-pi-into-a-nas-for-whole-home-file-sharing
That's literally the bookmark I still have from 3 years ago - and it looks like they kept it updated! Enjoy!
You're amazing! Thank you! Now to find a Pi 4 that's actually in stock. Any recommendations on RAM version?
I doubt it's very intensive if you're only doing a single drive NAS - but I did get the Pi4 with 4 GB. It's been running the pi-hole and network drive nonstop for 2 years, no issues.
and of course - enjoy!
Excellent. It's been a minute, probably 3 years since I bought a Pi, time to get searching. Thanks again and have a great day.
I had a 24 bay SAS racked external system piped into a racked server I had for many years. Experimented with tons of filesystems (played with ZFS so much), had a gazillion hard drives spinning, and ran Plex. I learned a ton from the experience, and lost many drives over the years (average 2 a year. I was rough on them.)
Nowdays, an intel NUC with an external hard drive. Using jellyfin and *arrs for the obvious, then a small kubernetes cluster for learning.
Used a QNAP for a bit when I was in a motorhome full-time, but found it wasn't powerful enough for more than filesharing and went to the NUC instead.
I've got an old office PC running esxi with truenas core virtualized. Runs solidly but I wish I'd used Proxmox for my hypervisor.
Kata1ystI run everything on a lean Ubuntu server install. My Ansible playbooks then take over and set up ZFS and docker. All of my hosted services are in docker, and their data and configs are contained, regularly snapshotted, and backed up in ZFS.
I run basically all of the Arr stack, Plex (more friendly to my less tech savvy family then my preferred solution Jellyfin), HAss, Frigate NVR, Obsidian LiveSync, a few Minecraft worlds, Docspell, Tandoor recipes, gitea, Nextcloud, FoundryVTT, an internet radio station, syncthing, Wireguard, ntfy, calibre, Wallabag, Navidrome, and a few pet projects.
I also store or backup all of the important family documents and photos, though I haven't implemented Immich just yet, waiting for a few features and a little more development maturity.
About 30TB usable right now.
Docspell
Could you go into a bit more detail on this particular stack and how it’s useful to you?
Certainly. Mostly it started as a way to keep tax documents and receipts safe and easily findable.
It's grown into a "huh, maybe this letter from <bank, school, insurance, charity, etc> is important, but it clutters the house less when ones and zeros", so we scan it in.
Then when we need info, we can just search for the name of the sender, the date, account numbers, literally anything remotely legible in the document and get lightning fast results.
I've got a Synology with 2x 4TB as main storage for backups, fotos and time machine for my macs.
Otherwise I run a mini pc (dell optiplex i5 7xxx, 32GB RAM, 2 TB SSDs) with proxmox hosting multiple VMs for pihole, home assistant, zigbee2mqtt, nodered and some other stuff, partly on docker, partly on VM.
And lastly I run my old gaming pc as a development / tinker server with proxmox, currently playing around with bare metal Kubernetes and some other stuff.
amino@Gaywallet @technology I have a synology and I use it only for NAS type things and run minio on it via docker. It's been up and running fine for about 8 years but now that I want to upgrade and add things like 2.5g ethernet, it is a pain. My upgrade path is getting a SFF case and building my own NAS with off the shelf components. It should be rock solid with FreeNAS/TrueNAS/UnRaid and easy to upgrade and tinker with over time.
jeenaI like Synologies hardware actually but I also would rather run some free software on it. Right now I'm struggling with the Synology Drive app on Linux, it just doesn't want to run in the background like advertised, and it also crashes on launch because of wayland.
I have one Synology DS220+ at my parents house which I use for offsite backup of the computers and phones mostly. But it also runs Synology Photos which does face recognition which I then use to once an hour to fetch 20 pictures of pictures with the family on to show on the TV in the living room. I have pictures there dating back to 2004 which makes it a very cool walk down the memory lane. And I can use the TV as a big interactive picture frame when nobody is watching anything but we're at home.
With a similar script I also post pictures like "Today n years ago" in two of my family chats which is even cooler because there my siblings and parents also can one picture from n years ago every day in the morning when they wake up.
Here is the script, the bad part is that it has to have access to the postgresql database on the NAS, so it's a bit tricky to set up but once it runs it's awesome! https://github.com/jeena/synology-pictures
jaxI have an older R710 running TrueNAS right now with 1tb of (usable) flash storage and 10Gb connection the to the rest of my lab.
I have another TrueNAS instance running as a Proxmox VM with a Lenovo SA120 DAS attached to it, which has 2x 10Tb drives in mirror mode for mass storage. It's also technically connected via 10Gb to the rest of my lab.
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Assembled a server with Supermicro X9DRL-IF board and an old case. I figured I wanted ecc to safeguard against corruption on top of using btrfs. Harvested old laptop drives to build out a decent sized storage array for my purposes. Rationale overall was: cheaper to assemble than a purpose built NAS that had ecc and moderate compute power, more storage expansion options.
99% of the function has been serving samba/sftp shares. Started using nextcloud w/ memories to sync and tag photos from mobile. Standardized everything I run to opensuse tumbleweed/microOS.
Using an old Netgear Readynas R102 with 4.5 TB of usable storage in RAID 0.
I used to run all kinds of services on the nas itself via the ssh access, but I've since moved those to separate raspberry pis. The pis use the nas as a networked storage.
I run a webserver, music server, matrix server and torrent client seeding ubuntu images.
I want to make a storage cluster using Ceph in the future, but I've not found any suitable small computers that I could use with that.
I’ve got a Synology 918+ with 16TB in raid 10.
Of the synology software, I regularly use: Photos (photo backup and organization tool), Drive (a private “cloud” sync like Dropbox), the contacts and calendar services, and surveillance station, their security camera monitor/recorder. Via Docker, I also run dokuwiki, gitea, draw.io, minio, postgres, freshrss, firefly3, calibre, and a few others. Like others, Time Machine backups of laptops and backups of non-apple hardware use a lot of the space.
I also have my older Synology 213 running still just as a place to backup important stuff from the primary.
I have a $60 ASRock mobo + Intel Celeron quad core combo. Stuck 16gb of Ram in it and two sata controllers. I think ran was the most expensive and the computer now costs $150 without the drivers. I have x8 4TB drives and a 60GB ssd running true nas. That gives me 24TB space and two redundant drives for failure tolerance. From there I run jails (FreeBSD containers) for NextCloud, MiniDLNA, and transmission.
pAULIE42oTheres plenty of replies with options of decent, current NAS setups - so I'll reply with my 1st NAS instead...
You could start with a Pi-NAS to save a lot of $$coin$$... start with a Raspberry Pi 4 8GB; it has gigabit ethernet, so it meets that baseline... since you'll be running over the USB-3 BUS regardless, you can get away with buying cheap USB drives; there are many brands, but Western Digitals are pretty cheap... they go up to like 40GB now a days, but 4TB drives are only $100 or so... I went with two 8TB drives. Its better, IMO, to go with the larger 3.5" versions because they come with external power supplies. I found with the smaller 2.5" drives, the Pi could only power one sucking power over USB...
I used no RAID, as you have to jump thru a few extra hoops to get RAID setup over drives on the USB-3 bus... backup was done thru my Proxmox PBS server - but we're not here for the safe backup talk, right?
All this was running OpenMediaVault, which is a pretty decent NAS software. It has support for all the connection types you want - and believe it or not, I also ran Plex in docker and got decent results; while I wasn't able to do any transcoding, wireless playback worked quick enough for me - and I could even watch movies remotely...
I mention this setup b/c a 16TB Pi-NAS can be had for $300, all in... you can see speeds of 100MB/s but I found 40-50MB/s was an average because of WiFi or other bottlenecks.
Its cool to have options when building a NAS; I've since moved my NAS to a Proxmox VM on my Dell Poweredge server, but the Pi-NAS ran without fail for four years...
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Desktop PC running proxmox with a bunch of VM's. Mostly focused around hosting Plex but some other stuff as well. Below are some of my VM's. All are running Ubuntu server btw.
- HDDs get passed into this VM which uses mergerfs to pool them all together. Then I'm running an NFS server to share the drives with the other VM's that need access.
- Torrent client, sonarr, radarr, etc. To automatically acquire content.
- Plex VM
- Gaming servers (hosts Minecraft, valheim, etc servers)
- externally exposed nginx instance, hosts sites such as overseer.
- internally exposed nginx instance, allows for https access to all internal services (sonarr, radarr, flood, etc).
BoozillaAfter running two different Synology units at home (years ago) I finally just moved everything to a mix of USB SSDs and cloud storage. I really wasn't using many of the more advanced NAS features very often. They were expensive toys if I'm being honest with myself.
I needed lots of storage, primarily, and there are cheaper options for that now. SSDs are also far more reliable than they used to be. I keep the "large but not critical" files on SSD and the "critical" files in the cloud.
Not trying to discourage anyone from running their own NAS. It can do more than just store files for you, and they are fun to mess around with. But if all you really need is reliable storage, shop around for other solutions would be my advice.
Yes, SSDs are definitely a viable option now
jeansburgerCurrently running an R710 in RAID6 with 32TB usable, but between the data on plex and backups of things in the rack I'm low on space.
I'm looking at getting 8 Odroid HC4s and some referbed 20TB drives to build a Glusterfs cluster that will host all of my VM disks and backups. At least with that I'll have 80-120TB depending on how much fault tolerance I have. Because they have two HDD slots I can double my storage when it gets low and just add more boards to expand the array when I'm tight for space again.
I don't have any experience with the Odroid HC4, but I used to have an N2 and while I am sympathetic towards Odroid I can't help but feel their software/firmware support is lacking. I always had issues with the GPU driver and there was either a hardware or firmware fault with the USB controller which lead to random access errors.
Oh I'm not going to use the trash OS Odroid supplies. I'm going to use Armbian which is much more stable and has better support for the tooling I want to use
Thank you for saying that, I've been struggling with my HC4 using the Odroid supplied OS for a while and need to start fresh. Definitely going down this path thus time. Cheers!
I built my own, use XigmaNAS and RaidZ3 across 15 2TB disks for 22TB usable. Backup is now my main PITA - I lost a previous array with RaidZ2 by losing 3 disks trying to rebuild, so while I should have known better, RAID is not a backup. However, finding large external disks with any sort of reliability seems hard - so many bad reviews of 12TB etc disks. For now, I'm actually only using about 3.2TB and so can backup to jottacloud, but it's slow with my internet. I think the first full backup tool 3 months or something. Luckily I use something that is all incremental after that, but I probably actually need to set up a 20TB disk or something to just make full copies over to occasionally.
unfazedbeaverComputer with Ubuntu Server, with a Ryzen APU (3400g), 16GB DDR4 RAM, and 2 x 4TB WD Red CMR Drives.
Use it as a media server for Jellyfin, and also as a file server using NFS. Works super awesome and I wish I had done this sooner
j. b. crawfordI'm lucky enough to have a Kobol Helios64, but unfortunately the small company that made these shut down. It's fine for the time being but I'm going to have to pay attention to the NAS market to be ready to replace it one day... my main goal is low power, so I'm not sure if it's worth it to go to a more commercial option like Synology or if I should be building something.
KaldoIt's something I always wanted to setup for my personal files, docs, media etc. but get dissuaded once I see synology costs, hard drive requirements, RAID setup options and just generally power draw / heat&noise generation. Looking forward to answers here, I'd be very happy to get off cloud storage but not if it's a second job maintaining and setting it up
I'm using a Synology setup. I thought I'd grab an off the self option as I have a habit of going down rabbit holes with DIY projects. It's working well, doing a one-way mirror off my local storage with nightly backups from the NAS to a cloud server.
I use synology. I’ve done freenas, open filet and others. Synology works well. I let the nas do file storage. And tie other computers to it (namely sff dell machines) to do the other stuff, like Pi-hole or plex. Storage is shared from the nas via cifs/smb or iscsi.
Synology also has one of the best backups for home use imho with Active Backup for Business. It can do vmware, windows, max, Linux etc. I actually have an older second nas for that alone. But you can do it all in one easily.
I have a mini Thinkcentre. I used to use TrueNas scale, but switched to Ubuntu Server due to having tons of issues.
I run jellyfin, radar/sonarr, maybe a Minecraft server and a few other things.
I've used a repurposed full size ThinkCentre for several years now; it regularly hits uptimes approaching a year before I inevitably reboot for updates. Stock power supply too!
It's on it's second major version of OpenMediaVault; software RAID. Running Plex, file shares, and it used to run Resilio Sync too.
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Thank you! When I tried looking for them last night, I couldn't find anything, so this is very much appreciated!
karceI've got a 'NAS' setup on my desktop computer/server. I use it for almost everything. It runs VMs and games and self-hosted servers, etc, etc. It is Arch Linux but does it all. Plex/Sonarr/Radarr/QBittorrent.
24 TB of HDD in raid 10.
I've got a HP DL360 g9 running Ubuntu server lts and ZFS on Linux with 8× 1.2tb 10k disks, and an external enclosure (connected by external SAS) with 8× 2tb disks. The 1.2tb disks are in a ZFS raid10 array which has all our personal and shared documents, photos, etc The 2tb disks are in a raidz6 and stores larger files.
It uses a stupid amount of power though (mainly the 10k disks) so it's going to be replaced this year with something newer, not sure what that will look like yet.
I use mine for file storage, Pi-Hole, and Jellyfin mostly.
DM_GoldI'd like to build a NAS. Does anyone have a simple guide I could follow? I do have experience building my personal computers. I could search online for a guide, but a lot of the time small communities like this will have the end-all be-all guide that isn't well known.
Parsnip8904I don't have one off hand but a NAS at homelab level is not that different from a server.
I have had success with getting a second hand server with a moderately powerful processor (old i5 maybe?), a good 1/10Gb network card (which can be set up with bonding if you have multiple ports), and lots of SATA ports or a raid card (need PCI slots for the cards as well).
I would go with even a lower power processor for power savings if that's a thing. ECC ram would be great, especially for ZFS/btrfs/xfs.
SwintoodlesI built a massive overkill NAS with the intention of turning it into a full blown home server. That fizzled out after a while (partially because the setup I went with didn't have GPU power options on the server PSUs, and fenangling an ATX PSU in there was too sketchy for me), so now it's a power hog that just holds files. I just turn it on to use the files, then flip it back off to save on its ridiculous idle power costs.
In hindsight I'd have gone with a lighter motherboard/CPU combo and kept the server grade stuff for a separate unit. The NAS doesn't need more than a beefy NIC and a SAS drive controller, and those are only x8 PCIE slots at most.
Also I use TrueNAS scale, more work to set up than UNRAID but the ZFS architecture seemed too good to ignore.
A GPU isn't really necessary for home server unless you want to do lots of client side transcoding. I have a powerhungry server that runs a VM offering samba and nfs shares as well as a bunch of other vms, lxc containers and docker containers, with a full *arr stack, Plex, jellyfin, a jupyterlab instance, pihole and a bunch of other stuff.
I was trying to do some fancy stuff like GPU passthrough to make the ultimate all in one unit that I could have 2 or 3 GPUS in and have several VMs running games independently, or at least the option to spin it up for a friend if they came over. I'm probably not quite sophisticated enough to pull that off anyways, and the use case was too uncommon to bother with after unga bungaing a power distribution board after a hard day of work.
Ah now I get it. You'll probably need an expensive PSU to make that work. I'm sure there would be some option though in the server segment for people building GPU clusters.
Yeah, I was trying to go all the way when I should have compartmentalized it a bit and just had two computers instead of one superbeast. The server PSUs aren't super expensive relatively speaking, 1U hotswap 1200W PSUs with 94% efficiency are like $100. Problem was that the power distribution board I had didn't have GPU power connectors, only CPU power connectors, and tired me wasn't going to accept no for an answer and thus let out the magic smoke in it. I got lucky and the distribution board seems to be the intended failure point in these things, so the expensive motherboard and components got by unscathed (I think, I never used the GPU, and it was just some cheap Ebay thing). Still a fairly costly mistake that I should have avoided, but I was tired that night and wanted something to just work out.
That's quite interesting. I would have thought that they were more expensive than that. I've been there too. You're doing a bunch of stuff, tired and just want it to somehow work. What have you been doing with the build after that, if you don't mind me asking?
Was going to make it a sort of central computer that could centralize all the computing for several members of the family. Was hoping to get a basic laptop that could hook into the unit and play games/program on a virtual machine with graphics far above what the laptop could have handled, plus the aforementioned spin up of more machines for friends. Craft Computing had a lot of fun computing setups I wanted to learn and emulate. I would have also had the standard suite of video services and general tomfoolery. Maybe dip into crypto mining with idle time later on. Lots of ideas that somewhat fizzled out.
That sounds really interesting. I have some VMs set up in a similar way for family memeber though they're very low power. They're mostly used to ease the transition from windows to Linux. I hope you get to do it again sometime :)
I bought a 2 bay ds220+. 2 x 4TB drives. Been happy with it so far. I got Jellyfin on here and use Synology Photos and Drive to back up stuff. Yes, it's proprietary but when I was building it, it seemed to be a decent choice and had lots of support. As I get more experience, I will probably build my own NAS.
DrewI've just been using an old laptop with jellyfin, radarr, sonarr and transmission.