@mwl Basically Alexa does not eavesdrop, audio goes to the cloud only after the keyword is detected, and is only preserved if your Alexa settings say so.

The Ring stuff is another matter though.

@kfet @mwl

You say this, but what evidence do you have that they are correctly following their own rules?

Part of this lawsuit includes evidence from the FTC that Amazon was violating their own terms and rules. So why do you think that they're only violating the rules for Ring but not for Alexa?

Wouldn't it be safer to assume that if Ring was violating rules that everyone at Amazon was doing it?

@kfet @mwl This is all about your security posture.

We know that Amazon has the capacity to record lots of conversations. Amazons TOS might tell us that they're not going to, but clearly the TOS don't really matter.

If you're taking a proactive security stance, then you assume that people who can do things are doing things. Especially when the cost of violating rules is so low.

You can take a different stance. But don't act shocked when new evidence emerges.