Michael W Lucas Jun 2, 2023

Me: I won't discuss business in a room with an Alexa, because Amazon is my business competitor and they eavesdrop.

Various other folks:  

Today: Amazon to pay fine for eavesdropping. https://www.npr.org/2023/06/01/1179381126/amazon-alexa-ring-settlement

Show thread:animated_verified:防空識別區ᴏᴜᴛᴇʀɴᴀᴛɪᴏɴᴀʟ:adm1::adm2:Jun 2, 2023
@mwl We need to stop simply slapping these inordinately wealthy dystopian tech giants with paltry fines---we need to start putting executives and leads in prison. Release people in prison for petty drug crime, replace them with evil corporate pieces of shit.
Show thread[MOVED] neopolitanJun 2, 2023
@adiz
Or at least start fining them amounts that actually hurt. like %s of their total yearly income

@mwl
Show thread:animated_verified:防空識別區ᴏᴜᴛᴇʀɴᴀᴛɪᴏɴᴀʟ:adm1::adm2:
@[email protected] Yeah, how about $300 million vs. $30 million. These companies will simply shrug off and accept fines tiny as $30 million. If anything, they'll quantify such fines as "worth it" or simply "part of doing business" to further ulterior motives. ---Amazon, in this case, made $513.98 billion in revenue last year (2022); they don't care about $30 million. They won't change any behavior. They'll laugh and move on, continuing with their same old shit. @mwl
Jun 2, 2023 at 3:55amWeb
Show thread:animated_verified:防空識別區ᴏᴜᴛᴇʀɴᴀᴛɪᴏɴᴀʟ:adm1::adm2:Jun 2, 2023
@[email protected] My math is probably wrong, but I'm pretty certain that $30 million is 0.0057% of $513.98 billion. @mwl
Show threadSammy 🦊Jun 2, 2023

@adiz @mwl @neopolitan

Agree but I'd start much higher. 10% of current company value including all assets as a baseline, with an extra 5 per charge. You're right, if a crime is punishable by a fine it's explicitly okay for rich people to commit it, so start making that fine *really* hurt.