Brian Marick @marick thinks Trond @trondhjort will have to be the popularizer that #OST hasn't had yet. Specifically, he will need to write a book. He will also need to write shorter descriptions of technologies like the "search workshop" (described later). Brain is encouraging him to do this and has offered to be an editor. Brain would like us to encourage Trond as well. [https://podcast.oddly-influenced.dev/episodes/trond-hjorteland-on-a-radical-approach-to-organizational-transformation/transcript podcast]